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Thanks Kevin. I guess I should looked harder. I think that this is what Mike Dwyer has used on some of his. I will download and compare to what I have purchased.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin R. Walsh
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:05 AM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Modified video
On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 3:52 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
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Not sure but I might have a money tree on the way..this time it is nearer to the homestead. Oklahoma City..not Seattle.
If that one happens then an AV30 is definitely on the way and I will opt for the tail beacon they offer so ADS-B compliant
and it will WiFi to any bluetooth I-pad.
I was also considering a wide angle camera on the aft turtledeck for aircraft separation as part of the scan, to view on
the I-pad. I got the idea from automotive backup camera's that are now standard.
As is known..not much view to clear traffic in a right turn in a Q2 or Dragonfly. A bit like "omni vision" in the Cessnas'. I always
thought it was kinda cute the mid 60's 150's have a rear
view mirror on the panel.
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:57 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Modified video Good ideas, Vern. I think all of the movie recording options on phones, now include the GPS, so I suspect the ipad, iphone and android platforms will all work for what you describe. I will try a video on my phone and see if it encodes the telemetry. Will let you know.
Cheers,
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
On Behalf Of smeshno1@...
Jay, It is interesting and useful to pilots..maybe to others that are curious about learning to fly and would like to see what we actually do and why.
Jim adding AV30's to his panel and with the WiFi option for output the AV's now have, I am wondering if the I-pad in flight..well..it should be able to record whatever display is fed to it, correct?. That would be a great tool for instrument instruction, and in actual flight conditions. Even seeing a VFR approach to a location not flown to before would be nice to review prior to departure.
Vern From:
main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
It’s called Telemetry Overlay for Windows. They also have a version for Mac. It’s $100.
Cheers, Jay
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Good ideas, Vern. I think all of the movie recording options on phones, now include the GPS, so I suspect the ipad, iphone and android platforms will all work for what you describe. I will try a video on my phone and see if it encodes the telemetry. Will let you know.
Cheers,
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of smeshno1@...
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:48 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Modified video
Jay, It is interesting and useful to pilots..maybe to others that are curious about learning to fly and would like to see what we actually do and why.
Jim adding AV30's to his panel and with the WiFi option for output the AV's now have, I am wondering if the I-pad in flight..well..it should be able to record whatever display is fed to it, correct?. That would be a great tool for instrument instruction, and in actual flight conditions. Even seeing a VFR approach to a location not flown to before would be nice to review prior to departure.
Vern From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
It’s called Telemetry Overlay for Windows. They also have a version for Mac. It’s $100.
Cheers, Jay
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Thanks Corbin,
I don’t have the Garmin camera, but I am sure it is very nicely buttoned up like all of the other Garmin gear. I got a deal on the GoPro, so I took that plunge. Seems like most of the GoPro users are on a skateboard, bike or some sort of surf board. I am too old for those, but I did pick through the noise and found something that works for my flying predilection. I think the Telemetry app that I bought works with a lot of other brands of cameras as long as they encode GPS telemetry data.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 AM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Modified video
I’ll add that the Garmin cameras have this built in as well. Many different options on how to display it within the app probably similar to the GoPro telemetry data. Corbin
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Hi Jon,
Thanks for the feedback. You have much more experience with this stuff than I do, so I always appreciate you chiming in. I did try GoProQuik initially (and use it on my phone to control the camera). I found and liked the idea of the gauge widget that it has in the software. I just could not find a way to export from that application to my computer disk. It seems to only allow you to export to YouTube or Facebook. They act like no respectable human would save to any other repository, but what do you expect for free?.
In any case, not to be fenced in, and having my trusty money tree blooming year round in my greenhouse, I dove right in and bought the other app. It is very nice and has many other options besides the “aviation” set, so if you mount a GoPro on your quarter horse, it has the usual cowpoke six pack resting on the saddle horn, etc., etc.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jon Finley
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Modified video
Thanks for the heads-up Jay - looks interesting. I suspect you already know but just in case, you can also use the free GoPro Quik to do similar. The problem with the instrumentation in Quik is that it is limited and not particularly 'attractive' (at least IMO). I'm currently waiting for my money tree to bloom but may give this software a shot when it does.
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Jay,
It is interesting and useful to pilots..maybe to others that are curious about learning to fly and
would like to see what we actually do and why.
Jim adding AV30's to his panel and with the WiFi option for output the AV's now have, I am wondering if
the I-pad in flight..well..it should be able to record whatever display is fed to it, correct?. That would be
a great
tool for instrument instruction, and in actual flight conditions. Even seeing a VFR approach to a
location not flown to before would be
nice to review prior to departure.
Vern
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:43 PM To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Modified video It’s called Telemetry Overlay for Windows. They also have a version for Mac. It’s $100.
Cheers,
Jay
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Hey Jon.. when you get the tree to bloom Ben Franklins let me know!! Every time my wife has me go with her to the
garden centers I look for them money trees...I even ASK for them!!
On a more aircrafty question..does your RV4 engine mount have the RV7 gear gussets added? Just curious to learn if
you discovered cracking in the tubes or weld interface to
the main gear tube. Not all gears have but it is I believe a
point of concern during conditional inspection.
The fellow that does the recommended repair is located in Vancouver Washington.
Vern
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jon Finley <jd@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:51 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Modified video Thanks for the heads-up Jay - looks interesting. I suspect you already know but just in case, you can also use the free GoPro Quik to do similar. The problem with the instrumentation in Quik is that it is limited and not particularly 'attractive' (at
least IMO). I'm currently waiting for my money tree to bloom but may give this software a shot when it does.
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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That would work also. But as you noted, not much real estate to work with at the fuselage and canard junction. Lots of
challenge. Still, it is a possible venue. Steve..using the Grove gear, how did the ramp angle work out and the gear stagger
to bring the C/L of the tires to the MKII location from the Datum? You see why I chose the RV7 gear design?
Not only for reasons of working out a lot of installation issues , but the design has been flying the
Experimental aircraft sky
ever since the W8/W10 plans were sent by Mr. Wittman. I am skilled enough in TIG welding this is not a big event to fabricate.
Vern in frozen (again) Oklahoma
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Steve Rothert via groups.io <SWROTHERT@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:09 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Hoop Gear Suggestions I helped a fellow builder install a Grove aluminum gear, on his Dragonfly. There were plenty of challenges in finding a location for the attach points, reinforcing the fuselage structure, machining the attach brackets, locating the holes for the hydraulic
brake lines, etc.
Steve
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On the Dragonfly list there are members asking about the spring steel MKII design. I have a copy of the
sketch and it includes the materials used but I suspect it may be in the archives hereon Q-list. My printed
copy is not in the best condition but I can scan and upload
if there is no file available.
The builders longer term than I am probably have some history on this main gear design. I seem to remember
there were more than one or two aircraft that were revised to this design and the reports were it was quite a
successful change. Same issues about the glass de lams in the MKII original stubs. Since my project had the
similar overall questions about the gear I collected as much data as I could for options.
My canard has the glass stubs because I purchased it that way, but I am not going to use the spring steel, hoop,
or enhanced glass MKII gear. I am going with the RV7 (Wittman W10) main gear design. I already have new legs,brakes,
wheels..and wheel pants.
The engine mount design is already available since William Wynne built the mount for an Ed Luce Buttercup project he
was building. I have the plans for that aircraft also. Of course William intended to use the Corvair powerplant on the
Buttercup..as I am on Frankenbird.
Vern
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of J-Dubs <jwerth55303@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 8:42 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Hoop Gear Suggestions Steve,
Testing a few layups to see how size increases with time was my thought, I was just trying to avoid multiple shipments from AS&S. Michael, You are correct, DBFN 43 is the one that I am using for reference. It gives great information for the finished dimensions but doesn't say anything about the amount of fiberglass required. It also says S-Glass but that was corrected in later issues to E-Glass. Using E-Glass thickness of 0.012" the 5/8" thick section would take 52 layers assuming that the glass doesn't swell and another 52 layers for the 1 1/4" thick sections. I think that West Systems is the popular contemporary choice for resin but I am not sure.
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Steve Rothert
I helped a fellow builder install a Grove aluminum gear, on his Dragonfly. There were plenty of challenges in finding a location for the attach points, reinforcing the fuselage structure, machining the attach brackets, locating the holes for the hydraulic brake lines, etc.
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Steve,
Testing a few layups to see how size increases with time was my thought, I was just trying to avoid multiple shipments from AS&S. Michael, You are correct, DBFN 43 is the one that I am using for reference. It gives great information for the finished dimensions but doesn't say anything about the amount of fiberglass required. It also says S-Glass but that was corrected in later issues to E-Glass. Using E-Glass thickness of 0.012" the 5/8" thick section would take 52 layers assuming that the glass doesn't swell and another 52 layers for the 1 1/4" thick sections. I think that West Systems is the popular contemporary choice for resin but I am not sure.
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I’ll add that the Garmin cameras have this built in as well. Many different options on how to display it within the app probably similar to the GoPro telemetry data.
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Thanks for the heads-up Jay - looks interesting. I suspect you already know but just in case, you can also use the free GoPro Quik to do similar. The problem with the instrumentation in Quik is that it is limited and not particularly 'attractive' (at least IMO). I'm currently waiting for my money tree to bloom but may give this software a shot when it does.
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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It’s called Telemetry Overlay for Windows. They also have a version for Mac. It’s $100.
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Cheers, Jay
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Michael Dunning
I believe there are a few examples of homebuilt hoop gear in the Dragonfly newsletters; page 7 of Issue 43 is just one example. IIRC, a latter issue even had color photos.
Dragonfly Builders and Flyers Newsletter - Issue 43 For the Long-EZ gear finishing Steve posted, Ary Glantz has a nice video of that process: The Long-EZ Build: Chapter9 - Part 2 -- -MD #2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)
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Jay,
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What software is that? Thanks, Adam H www.adamhied.com - dragonfly experimental airplane blog YouTube channel
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Raphael SF Zvetkoff
I forgot to add this.
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Cringely <bob@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:22 AM To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Hoop Gear Suggestions I’d start by buying Pazmany’s book on landing gears, which explains everything you need to know. It’s available from Aircraft Spruce.
Bob
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Raphael SF Zvetkoff
You can find Boeing both process specs and BMS (Boeing Material Specs) online. You'll be able to find everything from ply thickness per ply to the different resins used for each application whether it's in an autoclave or an oven or room temp cures.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/115312681/Boeing-BMS-Boeing-Material-Specification
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of J-Dubs <jwerth55303@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:36 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: [Q-List] Hoop Gear Suggestions I know it is slightly off topic but I feel like the knowledge base here is also quite deep so I hope it is okay to ask. I have been trying to have a production run of hoop gear made for the Dragonfly list but have failed. I believe that I will have to
make my own. This leaves me with a few questions:
1. Are there any design improvements that should be included? I am thinking of adding 2 fiberglass sleeves for the final layers to help prevent cracking. 2. In estimating material to get to 0.75" thick, do I just use the fiberglass thickness or do I add something to allow for wetted thickness? 3. Which resin is preferred for a hoop gear application?
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Hi Guys,
I have been experimenting with some software that I just bought which allows me to add some gauges (and a moving map) to videos with telemetry data. I added them to a video that I recorded this past weekend. Makes it more interesting…. to pilots anyway.
Cheers, Jay
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