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Warp Drive

Jon Finley <finley@...>
 

Does anyone out there have a three-bladed set of 54"-56"Warp Drive taper tip
blades (clockwise turning from cockpit) that I could borrow for a week or
two?? I have the paddle blades and would like to try the taper tips before
committing to them (No, I haven't tried WD yet - but I will).

Thanks!
Jon Finley
N54JF Quickie - Volkswagen 1835cc
N90MG Q2 - Subaru EA-81 DDT
Apple Valley, Minnesota
http://63.90.191.136/Finley/finley-subaru.html


Q-1 info

Tom Moore <qba321tm@...>
 

This guy contacted me for info. Can anyone help him out?

Make sure you direct your responses to him also, he's not on the Q-LIST.

Tom Moore

======================================

I have always had an interest in the Quickie. I have search high and low
for more information on this incredible
plane. I have even dreamed of owning one. Well to get to my point, I
have a request. From the information I have
gathered it appears that there is an early version and a modified
version. I am not just talking about the tail
modification. It seems that there was a short wing version that had a
longer tail. The last versions wing was 200"
and a fuselage of 14' 9" from the back of the spinner to were the tail
wheel exits the fuselage. The other version
appears to have had a 192" wing approx. with a fuselage length of
approx. 16' 2". I have several documents the
state this conflict. They include info from QAC, Popular Mechanic and
some early builders. I thought that if you
are in the crowd that has access to this information you could direct me
that way. Or even provide me with the
info. The reason I would like this information is to complete a scale
model of the Quickie Q1(33% scale). I have
completed the test platform and had good success. Now I want to detail
the exact appearance. All is well except
the above noted conflicts on dimensions. Please HELP.

Sincerely Bryan
E-mail - lbcdtb@...
PS: If you know of any person that would be interested in the fiberglass
to a Q2 please let me know


Re: GPS

John Loram <johnl@...>
 

The big difference I've noticed is in altitude reporting. It use to wander
up down by a few hundred feet. That's been reduced to, maybe, 50-75 feet.

John Loram

-----Original Message-----
From: James Postma [mailto:james@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 9:35 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] GPS


Just curious you guys flying around out there with GPS, if you have noted
the improved accuracy since the military stopped degrading it, and what you
think the current accuracy is.

James Postma
james@... <mailto:james@...>
(253) 584-1182 9:00 to 8:00 PDT (GMT-8) voice


Oil Cooling

Jim Patillo <patillo@...>
 

Q LIST

We now have a swarm of Q200's in Livermore, CA. (that is two or
more). This really is a fun to fly airplane!

I now have 5 hours on my plane with a zero time engine that now has
12 hours on it. Huh? The problem is that the oil temperature is 230
degrees, which I think is high. The oil pressure is 30-40 lbs. CHT
never exceeds 385 degrees.

I have an El Reno oil filter mounted to the engine which has a shroud
around the filter with a 1" forced air tube and the question
is.....are there any of you who have this set up with an oil cooler?

If so, how and where did you hook it up. This may be the option for
getting the cooling down to 190 degrees or so. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. I would like to open er up but can't until I
solve this problem.

Regards,

Jim P. N46JP Q200


Re: Oil Cooling

The Ives Hive <iveshive@...>
 

Jim,
I made a blueprint of an oil cooler adapter which mounts between the the
El Rino and the engine. My brother used it to machine the adapter out of
aluminum for me. I will call him to get a copy of it.
Tom Ives


Sparrow Strainers

Jon Finley <finley@...>
 

All,

This past weekend I finally got around to installing my sparrow strainers.
I made them similar to Tom Moore's (adjustable aluminum plate) and mounted
them 14" out from the inboard end of the elevators.

Tom took measurements of his current settings and I tried to set my similar
to his (he has different canard and slightly different strainers so it was a
guess). I took off this morning concerned that if they were not close I
would feel some very heavy stick forces. Weelllll, by golly - the ole bird
didn't feel a bit different during the climb out. I settled in at 3000' and
145mph IAS and didn't notice anything EXCEPT my plane has never exhibited
such well behaved pitch stability. Now keep in mind this was the result I
was hoping for so it may just be wishful thinking but it sure did feel
better.

Now the question: How does one go about tuning these things? I believe the
ideal position is such that there isn't any stick forces at cruise speed
(perfectly trimmed), everyone agree? The only way that I can figure to do
this is to remove the existing pitch trim and
fly-adjust-fly-adjust-fly-adjust until this state is reached. The problem
is that my arm couldn't handle flying without the trim (stick forces way to
high to hang on for too long). Oops, wait - I didn't mean to scare anybody.
The Q2 could be flown in a runaway trim/broken trim configuration - the
average individual can overcome the stick forces. I am stating that I don't
want to intentionally do this - especially for any length of time. I have
heard folks speak of a nibbling feel if they are set at too high/low angle
of attack and are stalling - thoughts?

So, you guys that are flying - how did you tune them OR did you just stick
them on and forget about them?

Thanks,

Jon Finley
Q1 N54JF - 1835cc VW
Q2 N90MG - Subaru EA-81 DD Turbo
Apple Valley, Minnesota
http://63.90.191.136/Finley/finley-subaru.html


Re: Sparrow Strainers

Pat Panzera <panzera@...>
 

Jon Finley wrote:

<snip>

The only way that I can figure to do this is to remove the existing pitch
trim and fly-adjust-fly-adjust-fly-adjust until this state is reached.
Jon, you may want to land between "fly-adjust". :)

The problem
is that my arm couldn't handle flying without the trim (stick forces way to
high to hang on for too long).
Did you have any strainers at all before?... or was it the trim
which was holding the elevator in trail?

Does your trim mech. have a neutral position where the spring is
not holding anything?

Pat


Re: Oil Cooling

Cash, Gene <CASH@...>
 

Tom,
Could I get a copy of your drawing, too? I have the El Reno oil filter and
have been looking for a long time for something to adapt an oil cooler.

Thanks a lot,
Gene Cash
3111 Starling
Thousand Oaks, Ca 91360

-----Original Message-----
From: The Ives Hive [SMTP:iveshive@...]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 7:03 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Oil Cooling

Jim,
I made a blueprint of an oil cooler adapter which mounts between the
the
El Rino and the engine. My brother used it to machine the adapter out of
aluminum for me. I will call him to get a copy of it.
Tom Ives




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Re: Sparrow Strainers

Jon Finley <finley@...>
 

Pat,

Yea, now that I think about it the land portion of the sequence is
important!

Right. No strainers previously, only trim springs holding the elevator.

No, not really. I have the plans setup with the rope, springs, and wheel.
That does give me something to think about though. Maybe, while on the
ground, I could note the position of the trim wheel while the elevators are
at their normal cruise position. Then fly, move the trim to the previously
marked position and begin adjusting the strainers until it flies hands off
with the trim in this position. The problem with all of this is the fact
that there are so many variables involved (CG, t-tail, reflexor, trim,
etc...). Those of you that are flying know that you can lean forward or
back to control pitch - the Q is really sensitive.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Panzera [mailto:panzera@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:39 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Sparrow Strainers




Jon Finley wrote:

<snip>

> The only way that I can figure to do this is to remove the existing
pitch
> trim and fly-adjust-fly-adjust-fly-adjust until this state is reached.

Jon, you may want to land between "fly-adjust". :)

> The problem
> is that my arm couldn't handle flying without the trim (stick forces way
to
> high to hang on for too long).

Did you have any strainers at all before?... or was it the trim
which was holding the elevator in trail?

Does your trim mech. have a neutral position where the spring is
not holding anything?

Pat


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Oil Cooler

The Ives Hive <iveshive@...>
 

Long story made short - Oil cooler blueprint gone!. However I,ll be more than happy to sit down at the kitchen table with my straight edge spaghetti box and redraw it. The adapter I copied it from was Earnest Martin's . I have some pictures of his mighty fine installation job. I,ll try to get this together in the next couple of days and submitt it for review - It seems to work well for Earnest. My plane has a way to go before I,m cooling oil in the sky!
Tom Ives


Re: Oil Cooling

L.J. French <LFrench@...>
 

I am interested in this subject also. Based on all the Q-Talk feedback
this is a common problem. I have done the best job possible with attached
aluminum cooling fins with shroud cooling around the filter as well as the
engine belly cooling shroud, but my suspicion is that the temps will still
be high. I looked at modifying the El Reno adapter, but this didn't seem
feasible. Tom - I would be interested in your adapter as well.
Thanks
Lynn French
Rt. 2 Box 256
Broken Bow, NE. 68822

----- Original Message -----
From: Cash, Gene <CASH@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Oil Cooling


Tom,
Could I get a copy of your drawing, too? I have the El Reno oil filter
and
have been looking for a long time for something to adapt an oil cooler.

Thanks a lot,
Gene Cash
3111 Starling
Thousand Oaks, Ca 91360

-----Original Message-----
From: The Ives Hive [SMTP:iveshive@...]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 7:03 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Oil Cooling

Jim,
I made a blueprint of an oil cooler adapter which mounts between the
the
El Rino and the engine. My brother used it to machine the adapter out of
aluminum for me. I will call him to get a copy of it.
Tom Ives




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Ottawa Rides.......Spars again......

Barry Stearns <blstearns@...>
 

Hello all. Just wanted to get in touch with some of you for the
possibility of scheduling one of those religious rides at Ottawa this year.
Would really appreciate the opportunity to fly in one of your aircraft.
Please let me know if this would be possible. I am planning on being down
Early Saturday and be there for the duration of the flyin.

Also, as most already know i am still in need of a set of spars. I knew
that someone had told me they had access to a set, but the name escapes me
now. Please respond if you are that special person. Someone else also has
brought up the possibility of getting spars made by some of the original
spar manufacture. I appreciative the help on this and look forward to
meeting you all again at Ottawa.

Barry Stearns
Grand Island, Nebraska


Re: Ottawa Rides.......Spars again......

Don Stewart <siinc@...>
 

The carbon Spar man is alan Thayer. He'll be at Ottawa to talk about his
new spar and the load testing he just finished.
Don
Ottawa2000
http://www.si-inc.com/Ottawa2000

Barry Stearns wrote:


Hello all. Just wanted to get in touch with some of you for the
possibility of scheduling one of those religious rides at Ottawa this year.
Would really appreciate the opportunity to fly in one of your aircraft.
Please let me know if this would be possible. I am planning on being down
Early Saturday and be there for the duration of the flyin.

Also, as most already know i am still in need of a set of spars. I knew
that someone had told me they had access to a set, but the name escapes me
now. Please respond if you are that special person. Someone else also has
brought up the possibility of getting spars made by some of the original
spar manufacture. I appreciative the help on this and look forward to
meeting you all again at Ottawa.

Barry Stearns
Grand Island, Nebraska


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Re: Sparrow Strainers

Robert M. Farnam <bfarnam@...>
 

Jon,

That is what I plan to do. Set the spring trim to neutral and then try to get
the strainers to hold the elevator without spring pressure. You might set up the
spring trim system so you can change the drag brake on the trim wheel in flight.
Then spring load will cause the wheel to backdrive to relieve the load. This
will let you see what spring load exists in cruise. Two things to remember. My
airplane goes noticeably faster with the elevator reflexed up (pitch down).
Also, remember that Gary Hertzler recommended that we get the springs to do as
much of the work as possible because that will cause lower trim drag. By the
way, I can always feel slight "nibbling" at the stick in cruise, even in smooth
air. It has no effect on the airplane that I can see, and the airplane has fair
pitch stability if my CG isn't too far aft. I don't know if what I am feeling is
stall (I doubt it) or just turbulence from the propwash. It seems to me that the
strainers ought to be outside of the prop arc to avoid trim change due to power
changes. I think if the strainers were really stalling, there would be a pitch
response from the Q and I've never felt that.

Bob F.
N200QK

Jon Finley wrote:

Pat,

Yea, now that I think about it the land portion of the sequence is
important!

Right. No strainers previously, only trim springs holding the elevator.

No, not really. I have the plans setup with the rope, springs, and wheel.
That does give me something to think about though. Maybe, while on the
ground, I could note the position of the trim wheel while the elevators are
at their normal cruise position. Then fly, move the trim to the previously
marked position and begin adjusting the strainers until it flies hands off
with the trim in this position. The problem with all of this is the fact
that there are so many variables involved (CG, t-tail, reflexor, trim,
etc...). Those of you that are flying know that you can lean forward or
back to control pitch - the Q is really sensitive.

Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Panzera [mailto:panzera@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:39 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Sparrow Strainers

Jon Finley wrote:

<snip>

> The only way that I can figure to do this is to remove the existing
pitch
> trim and fly-adjust-fly-adjust-fly-adjust until this state is reached.

Jon, you may want to land between "fly-adjust". :)

> The problem
> is that my arm couldn't handle flying without the trim (stick forces way
to
> high to hang on for too long).

Did you have any strainers at all before?... or was it the trim
which was holding the elevator in trail?

Does your trim mech. have a neutral position where the spring is
not holding anything?

Pat

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Re: Sparrow Strainers

DKeats/CWalterson <dkeats@...>
 

John ----- Regarding the sparrow strainer question.--- On my Dragonfly
after installing them I have never had to adjust. I think the idea is
that the stainers pull the elevator down and the spring will trim them
up. As long as the strainers are close to the same angle of attack as
the canard it should all work. My strainers are upside down
airfoils..... As for fine tuning , I find once my elevator is set I
never touch it all year. I use the reflexor to get the elevator EXACTLY
inline with the wing. No down elevator for me. This seems to give me the
best speed. I can still fly hands off in cruise but only long enough to
scratch my nose, after that it will gradually roll left,right or pitch
up or down. Whatever it feels like doing. Hope this helps--- Chris


Re: Ottawa Rides.......Spars again......

Barry Stearns <blstearns@...>
 

Thanks Don!

Barry


[Original Message]
From: Don Stewart <siinc@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 08/29/2000 4:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Ottawa Rides.......Spars again......


The carbon Spar man is alan Thayer. He'll be at Ottawa to talk about his
new spar and the load testing he just finished.
Don
Ottawa2000
http://www.si-inc.com/Ottawa2000

Barry Stearns wrote:

Hello all. Just wanted to get in touch with some of you for the
possibility of scheduling one of those religious rides at Ottawa this
year.
Would really appreciate the opportunity to fly in one of your aircraft.
Please let me know if this would be possible. I am planning on being
down
Early Saturday and be there for the duration of the flyin.

Also, as most already know i am still in need of a set of spars. I knew
that someone had told me they had access to a set, but the name escapes
me
now. Please respond if you are that special person. Someone else also
has
brought up the possibility of getting spars made by some of the original
spar manufacture. I appreciative the help on this and look forward to
meeting you all again at Ottawa.

Barry Stearns
Grand Island, Nebraska


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Re: Sparrow Strainers

Mark Greenwood <mtgreenwood@...>
 

John
I built mine without any pitch trim on the elevators at all. In-flight trim
is achieved with reflexor. I adjusted the sparrow strainers for no
deflection of the canard in cruise and all seems to be working well.
Mark Greenwood


Re: Ottawa Rides.......Spars again......

Galletti Joseph N Civ ASC/YTJG <Joseph.Galletti@...>
 

Please don't confuse Alan's efforts with the original Quickie spar design. Alan is utilizing a new design that does not employ the original tubular spar design of the original Quickie's. His is something new that is currently being tested on a single place Quickie, only. It looks like the best solution to getting a LS-1 airfoil on the Q-1 today, w/o the old spars being available. In your search for carbon spars, you need to contact someone other than Alan. (I can't remember who it is but he had a for sale ad in the last QBA newsletter.) If you want to be the first one out of the chute, wait to see how the new spar design works on the Q-1 and try and design a similar spar for the Q-2 and let us know how it works.

Joe Galletti

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Stewart [mailto:siinc@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:06 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Ottawa Rides.......Spars again......



The carbon Spar man is alan Thayer. He'll be at Ottawa to talk about his
new spar and the load testing he just finished.
Don
Ottawa2000
http://www.si-inc.com/Ottawa2000

Barry Stearns wrote:

Hello all. Just wanted to get in touch with some of you for the
possibility of scheduling one of those religious rides at Ottawa this year.
Would really appreciate the opportunity to fly in one of your aircraft.
Please let me know if this would be possible. I am planning on being down
Early Saturday and be there for the duration of the flyin.

Also, as most already know i am still in need of a set of spars. I knew
that someone had told me they had access to a set, but the name escapes me
now. Please respond if you are that special person. Someone else also has
brought up the possibility of getting spars made by some of the original
spar manufacture. I appreciative the help on this and look forward to
meeting you all again at Ottawa.

Barry Stearns
Grand Island, Nebraska


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New GU canard wax?, Q2 status

Edward N. MacLeod <ed@...>
 

Hi gang,

Just a thought:
There was a brief infomercial on a new kind of car wax. Instead of
water beading up on the surface, like regular wax, the water spreads
out. The water film gets thinner and thinner until the surface becomes
essentially dry. Has anyone seen this commercial? It sounds like a
possible GU rain fix. I sure would like to take a razor blade to those
vortex generators.

Q2 Status:
My Q2 (Revmaster) is almost ready for flight #2.
I relocated the roll trim so that it can be readily adjusted in flight.
The engine is running great at all speeds. The carb is tuned for
exactly 100deg F EGT drop from full rich to max EGT.

I am not sure this is a problem, but I am only getting 2900 rpm on fast
taxis. Ground acceleration seems like it could be better. The prop is
a 54-48, Arrow Prop. The airfoil thickness on the prop seems thick for
the horsepower. It also has plastic tape over the leading edge for rain
tolerance, the tape is fairly thick (>.005") and not faired into the
wood.

Any thoughts on the above are appreciated.

Big Thanks,

Ed


Phoenix Deer Valley

Bruce Crain
 

Hey Guys,
"Honey Lamb" and I are flying to Phoenix in Oct. We will land at Deer
Valley. There are a couple of choices for parking and fuel as far as my
Flight Guide shows. Does anyone know which is the best deal and are the
Q and avionics going to be safe? Matt Guensch (sp.) didn't I see your Q
in the
parking area at Deer Valley? Is there availability in a hanger for a few
days?

Bruce Crain

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