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Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200
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Woody Sulloway <sulloway@...>
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Can somebody point me to a drawing with dimensions of a Q 200 Please. Thanks Woody |
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L Koutz <koutzl@...>
Jon, or anyone
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Can you tell me how to get my Q-2 drawing on the web site. It was at the Illinois college site but I think it would be nice at our web page or email group. It is an auto cad drawing but can be manipulated. I just need to know what is needed. Larry ----- Original Message -----
From: "Woody Sulloway" <sulloway@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200
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Jon Finley <finley@...>
Larry,
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Is the drawing that you are trying to upload the same as the one I have already uploaded?? In any case, uploading files to the Q-List page is pretty easy. Go to the files section of the Q-List page (http://www.egroups.com/group/Q-LIST then Files), click on 'Upload File'. A screen appears that allows you to select the file from you computer and provide a description, then select the 'upload file' button. Don't select any of the options that cause the file to be downloaded automatically. Jon Finley Q1 N54JF - 1835cc VW Q2 N90MG - Subaru EA-81 DD Turbo Apple Valley, Minnesota http://63.90.191.136/Finley/finley-subaru.html -----Original Message-----
From: L Koutz [mailto:koutzl@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:41 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 My Groups | Q-LIST Main Page | Start a new group! Jon, or anyone Can you tell me how to get my Q-2 drawing on the web site. It was at the Illinois college site but I think it would be nice at our web page or group. It is an auto cad drawing but can be manipulated. I just need to know what is needed. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woody Sulloway" <sulloway@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 > > Hi, > Can somebody point me to a drawing with dimensions of a Q 200 Please. > > Thanks > > Woody > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site > http://web2.airmail.net/qba321tm/q-page1.html > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://web2.airmail.net/qba321tm/q-page1.html |
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Hot Wings
In a message dated 9/21/00 9:37:04 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
finley@... writes: << A three dimension view would be really cool BUT it requires software beyond what the average guy possess. >> =========================== I just looked on Ebay to see what was available for CAD programs and if anyone is interested you can get TurboCad 5.0 pro there for around $40 (or less) and it will do just about anything an amateur might need. It has a voice input that I find really handy as it makes things much quicker. I can just say "select line parallel" while I am moving the pointer to select the line. Cuts the time almost in half. This also has raster to vector conversion so you can scan in just about anything and then manipulate it in CAD. "It's quicker to click UNDO than it is to re-glue" <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/bd5er/Qpage.html">Q-2 page</A> Leon McAtee |
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L Koutz <koutzl@...>
Jon
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It's the same drawing. The students just put the dimensions on the plane. I am working to get my plane drawn in 3 dimensions. That is considerably harder than my first drawing. It was just traced from a picture in the builders manual, same with the engine. Now I am trying to get accurate dimensions so it is technically harder as the plane has few sharp corners ( your wheel pants are the exception). I don't think I can download an autocad drawing. I thought it had to be a .JPG or some other format. Do you know the best format? Larry ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Finley" <finley@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 Larry,select the file from you computer and provide a description, then select the |
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Jon Finley <finley@...>
I'm going to have to fix my wheel pants if you keep picking on them!! :-)
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At least they are smooth, sharp corners..... First off, I haven't done much with CAD/graphics in a few years so if someone is up to date - please jump in. A three dimension view would be really cool BUT it requires software beyond what the average guy possess. The list server will allow the upload of any file format, just be sure you provide an accurate description so the folks without the required software know not to bother. IMHO, jpg is the favored format for photos and graphics as it can be compressed and most everyone can view it. If you do end up using a CAD program, most of them will do an export to a common (CAD type) file format (.dxf) which may be the desire way to go. Jon -----Original Message-----
From: L Koutz [mailto:koutzl@...] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:29 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 My Groups | Q-LIST Main Page | Start a new group! Jon It's the same drawing. The students just put the dimensions on the plane. I am working to get my plane drawn in 3 dimensions. That is considerably harder than my first drawing. It was just traced from a picture in the builders manual, same with the engine. Now I am trying to get accurate dimensions so it is technically harder as the plane has few sharp corners ( your wheel pants are the exception). I don't think I can download an autocad drawing. I thought it had to be a .JPG or some other format. Do you know the best format? Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Finley" <finley@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 > Larry, > > Is the drawing that you are trying to upload the same as the one I have > already uploaded?? > > In any case, uploading files to the Q-List page is pretty easy. Go to the > files section of the Q-List page (http://www.egroups.com/group/Q-LIST then > Files), click on 'Upload File'. A screen appears that allows you to select > the file from you computer and provide a description, then select the > 'upload file' button. Don't select any of the options that cause the file > to be downloaded automatically. > > Jon Finley > Q1 N54JF - 1835cc VW > Q2 N90MG - Subaru EA-81 DD Turbo > Apple Valley, Minnesota > http://63.90.191.136/Finley/finley-subaru.html > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://web2.airmail.net/qba321tm/q-page1.html |
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John Loram <johnl@...>
Please! The AutoCAD format would be great!
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-john- -----Original Message-----
From: L Koutz [mailto:koutzl@...] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 7:29 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 Jon It's the same drawing. The students just put the dimensions on the plane. I am working to get my plane drawn in 3 dimensions. That is considerably harder than my first drawing. It was just traced from a picture in the builders manual, same with the engine. Now I am trying to get accurate dimensions so it is technically harder as the plane has few sharp corners ( your wheel pants are the exception). I don't think I can download an autocad drawing. I thought it had to be a .JPG or some other format. Do you know the best format? Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Finley" <finley@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 Larry,select the file from you computer and provide a description, then select the To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://web2.airmail.net/qba321tm/q-page1.html |
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John Loram <johnl@...>
I agree that .jpg files are preferable because virtually everyone has a jpg
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viewer. However there is a free AutoCAD plug-in view for Explorer and Netscape, provided by AutoCAD, at http://www.autodesk.com/cgi-bin/whipreg.pl and with AutoCAD format you can suck the file into any of several different low-cost cad programs ( I use TurboCAD ) and manipulate it and print it any size without loss of resolution! -john- -----Original Message-----
From: Jon Finley [mailto:finley@...] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:11 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 ........ IMHO, jpg is the favored format for photos and graphics as it can be compressed and most everyone can view it. If you do end up using a CAD program, most of them will do an export to a common (CAD type) file format (.dxf) which may be the desire way to go. Jon |
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Dave King <KingDWS@...>
I don't think I can download an autocad drawing. I thought it had to be aAre you trying to upload a useable drawing or just a image peeps can use? If you can export it to dxf or iges then almost every program should be able to load it. If you want to have a good three view ie jpg, export it to dxf and send it to me. I'll import it into Paint Shop Pro reduce the colors to two (ie B&W) and save as a gif. That way you can have pretty large images areas that are small in file size. I've sent dwg's this way to people who don't have acad or just wanted to look. These had areas of about 3500x1800 pixels which kept all the detail from the original drawing but the image size was only about 200K. For a more normal sized image say 800x600 it will be about 20k. Anyway thats the way I've been doing this. I'd be curious if anyone else has another way. Larry send me the dxf and I'll run it through so you can upload. Cheers Dave |
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John Loram <johnl@...>
Here is an even better AutoCAD viewer, from AutoCAD:
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http://www3.autodesk.com/adsk/section/0,,163255,00.html I didn't realized that they had two free viewers; WHIP! and Volo View Express. Volo View Express being the more sophisticated and allows viewing a wider range of AutoCAD files types and versions. There is an upgraded version of Volo, with more features that costs $195, but you'd probably do better buying one of the low cost cad packages like TurboCAD which include AutoCAD viewers. -john- -----Original Message-----
From: John Loram Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:05 AM To: 'Q-LIST@...' Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 I agree that .jpg files are preferable because virtually everyone has a jpg viewer. However there is a free AutoCAD plug-in view for Explorer and Netscape, provided by AutoCAD, at http://www.autodesk.com/cgi-bin/whipreg.pl and with AutoCAD format you can suck the file into any of several different low-cost cad programs ( I use TurboCAD ) and manipulate it and print it any size without loss of resolution! -john- -----Original Message----- From: Jon Finley [mailto:finley@...] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:11 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 ........ IMHO, jpg is the favored format for photos and graphics as it can be compressed and most everyone can view it. If you do end up using a CAD program, most of them will do an export to a common (CAD type) file format (.dxf) which may be the desire way to go. Jon To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://web2.airmail.net/qba321tm/q-page1.html |
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L Koutz <koutzl@...>
To All
Well I sent my Q-200 composite drawing in DXF format. It's big! Can anyone figure out how to get at it? be aI don't think I can download an autocad drawing. I thought it had to .JPG or some other format. Do you know the best format?Are you trying to upload a useable drawing or just a image peeps can |
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Robert M. Farnam <bfarnam@...>
Larry,
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One possible way is to insert it into a Word for Windows document. Word can import DXF. If you want to scale it accurately, a low end CAD program which reads DXF or DWG (both AutoCad formats) would be the best. Bob F. N2000QK L Koutz wrote:
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Jon Finley <finley@...>
Bob,
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Way cool - works great!! Didn't know Word would do that!! Jon -----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Farnam [mailto:bfarnam@...] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:14 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 My Groups | Q-LIST Main Page | Start a new group! Larry, One possible way is to insert it into a Word for Windows document. Word can import DXF. If you want to scale it accurately, a low end CAD program which reads DXF or DWG (both AutoCad formats) would be the best. Bob F. N2000QK L Koutz wrote: > > To All > Well I sent my Q-200 composite drawing in DXF format. It's big! Can anyone > figure out how to get at it? > > > > > > I don't think I can download an autocad drawing. I thought it had to > be a > > > .JPG or some other format. Do you know the best format? > > > Larry > > Are you trying to upload a useable drawing or just a image peeps can > > use? > > If you can export it to dxf or iges then almost every program should be > > able to load it. If you want to have a good three view ie jpg, export it > > to dxf and send it to me. I'll import it into Paint Shop Pro reduce the > > colors > > to two (ie B&W) and save as a gif. That way you can have pretty large > > images > > areas that are small in file size. I've sent dwg's this way to people > > who > > don't have acad or just wanted to look. These had areas of about > > 3500x1800 pixels > > which kept all the detail from the original drawing but the image size > > was only > > about 200K. For a more normal sized image say 800x600 it will be about > > 20k. > > > > Anyway thats the way I've been doing this. I'd be curious if anyone else > > has > > another way. Larry send me the dxf and I'll run it through so you can > > upload. > > > > Cheers > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site > http://web2.airmail.net/qba321tm/q-page1.html To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://web2.airmail.net/qba321tm/q-page1.html |
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Jeremy Prizeovoits <JerryPrize@...>
Robert,
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I have autocad light release 12 . Will it work as a viewer ? Jeremy -----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Farnam [mailto:bfarnam@...] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:14 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 Larry, One possible way is to insert it into a Word for Windows document. Word can import DXF. If you want to scale it accurately, a low end CAD program which reads DXF or DWG (both AutoCad formats) would be the best. Bob F. N2000QK L Koutz wrote:
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Bob Farnam <bfarnam@...>
Jeremy,
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I don't know about AutoCad LT, I have no experience with it, but my guess is that it would work. I think it does most of what Regular AutoCad will do except use LISP programming. I think it may be missing some 3D also, but that shouldn't matter with these drawings. Bob F. Q200QK Jeremy Prizeovoits wrote:
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Dave King <KingDWS@...>
Bob Farnam wrote:
Jeremy,ACAD LT wouldn't work with the DXF which was suprising. Mines V3 and it pulled in the dxf but said there were errors in the file and crapped out. I do have V12 and V9 on another machine so I havn't tried those yet. It did work just fine in another viewer so the file is just fine. Dave |
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Eric Gardner <fulltilt360@...>
How accurate is the fluid dynamic model from David
Lednicer shown in the photo gallery? As a mechanical engineer with 3d FEA/CAD/CAM experience, I would assume the model would have had to be pretty accurate if good results from the fluid analysis were to be expected. This data could be converted back to a wireframe or solid model and much information can be gained. Just curious...... Eric Gardner --- Jon Finley <finley@...> wrote: I'm going to have to fix my wheel pants if you keep ===== Eric E. Gardner Henderson, Ky "While one person hesitates because he feels inferior, another is busy making mistakes and becoming superior." Henry C. Link fulltilt360@... ICQ 13904188 www.geocities/heartland/lake/7503/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ |
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John Loram <johnl@...>
Eric; David took the dimensions from my set of Q2 plans and templates. I
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believe that the templates would allow him to defined airfoils quite accurately, and get a pretty good handle on the contour of the fuselage from the bulkhead templates. -john- -----Original Message-----
From: Eric Gardner [mailto:fulltilt360@...] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 8:16 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 How accurate is the fluid dynamic model from David Lednicer shown in the photo gallery? As a mechanical engineer with 3d FEA/CAD/CAM experience, I would assume the model would have had to be pretty accurate if good results from the fluid analysis were to be expected. This data could be converted back to a wireframe or solid model and much information can be gained. Just curious...... Eric Gardner --- Jon Finley <finley@...> wrote: I'm going to have to fix my wheel pants if you keep ===== Eric E. Gardner Henderson, Ky "While one person hesitates because he feels inferior, another is busy making mistakes and becoming superior." Henry C. Link fulltilt360@... ICQ 13904188 www.geocities/heartland/lake/7503/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://web2.airmail.net/qba321tm/q-page1.html |
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L Koutz <koutzl@...>
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I think the model is close, but I noticed the cowl is different, all wheel pants are different, and several areas like canard/ fuselage intersection can be different from the model. I don't know where this model came from or how the shape was obtained. Does anyone know? Larry ----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Gardner" <fulltilt360@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 11:15 PM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Drawing and dimensions of Q2 Q200 How accurate is the fluid dynamic model from David |
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