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Painting Problem
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Dave Richardson <dave@...>
I found a patch on my airplane that does not seem to want
to hold paint. It is located near the right elevator torque tube but on the top of the canard. It looks as though the previous owner/builder sprayed some WD-40 toward the elevator tube and hit the top of the canard as well. The area is about 3" x 1/2". I've sanded back all the primer and topcoat in that area to where it appears to be attached. The exposed area is EZPoxy micro for the most part. What will get rid of the silicone or what ever it is and be sure the paint will adhere? Thanks for your help. Dave Richardson |
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Hot Wings
In a message dated 9/25/00 11:46:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
panzera@... writes: << > Dave, > You can try wiping it down with some laquer thinner, but that micro is > so porous you might never get it out. Mike C. ...then there's the issues of any chemicals leaching in and attacking the foam core. Pat >> ====================== Seems like I lost several posts over the weekend. I had to go back to the web page to get filled in on this thread. I would avoid any hydrocarbon based solvent for cleaning on the wings due to the problem of solvent dissolving the foam cores. In my experience nothing works better for degreasing than good old dishwashing detergent and water. If you have a real bad spot try water, Ajax and some scotchbright. If that doesn't get it you may have to remove the offending glass and redo. "Think outside the box - but fly in the envelope" <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/bd5er/Qpage.html">Q-2 page</A> Leon McAtee |
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Pat Panzera <panzera@...>
Dave Richardson wrote:
I found a patch on my airplane that does not seem to want<snip> What will get rid of the silicone or what ever it is and be sureYour local auto paint store will have all sorts of fun chemicals used to remove silicone, tar, fingerprints, etc. Go in and tell them what you have done, and what you think you have. Pat |
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Michael D. Callahan <micallahan@...>
Dave,
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You can try wiping it down with some laquer thinner, but that micro is so porous you might never get it out. Mike C. ----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Richardson <dave@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 7:31 AM Subject: [Q-LIST] Painting Problem
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Pat Panzera <panzera@...>
"Michael D. Callahan" wrote:
Dave, ...then there's the issues of any chemicals leaching in and attacking the foam core. Pat |
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Jeff Russell <Jeff@...>
Dave Richardson wrote:
I found a patch on my airplane that does not seem to want<snip> If it was WD40, the grease could be down to the glass and must be removed before anything will quit leaching it to the paint. 1) Sand the micro down to the glass. 2) Wipe the glass with a damp cloth with (little) lacquer thinner on it. Do not soak because you can eat out the foam because of pinholes. 3) Re-micro fill 4) sand and then Cab-O-Sil and epoxy coat the sanded micro with a thin coat. 5) Re-prime and then paint. That should stop your problem BTW... anyone flying a Tri-Q or Q-200 close to the Ft. Pierce, Fl. I would love to trade rides in our AeroCanard for one in yours. My friend Scott Swing says that their the best flying machine he has been in. I would like to find this out myself. thanks -- Jeff Russell/AeroCad Inc. Website: http://www.Aerocad.com Sponsor- Canard Aviators www.canard.com canard Aviators page |
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Jon Finley <finley@...>
Wow!! When did you join us Jeff?? I had no idea we such an authority among
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us!! Welcome and please jump in as often as time permits! For those that don't know Jeff has been in the composite world for a very long time and is an "authority" in my book. I don't know his entire history but it does include lots of work on Rutan "style" planes. How about a brief resume Jeff? Jon Finley Q1 N54JF - 1835cc VW Q2 N90MG - Subaru EA-81 DD Turbo Apple Valley, Minnesota http://63.90.191.136/Finley/finley-subaru.html -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Russell [mailto:Jeff@...] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 1:30 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Painting Problem My Groups | Q-LIST Main Page Dave Richardson wrote: > I found a patch on my airplane that does not seem to want > to hold paint. <snip> If it was WD40, the grease could be down to the glass and must be removed before anything will quit leaching it to the paint. 1) Sand the micro down to the glass. 2) Wipe the glass with a damp cloth with (little) lacquer thinner on it. Do not soak because you can eat out the foam because of pinholes. 3) Re-micro fill 4) sand and then Cab-O-Sil and epoxy coat the sanded micro with a thin coat. 5) Re-prime and then paint. That should stop your problem BTW... anyone flying a Tri-Q or Q-200 close to the Ft. Pierce, Fl. I would love to trade rides in our AeroCanard for one in yours. My friend Scott Swing says that their the best flying machine he has been in. I would like to find this out myself. thanks -- Jeff Russell/AeroCad Inc. Website: http://www.Aerocad.com Sponsor- Canard Aviators www.canard.com canard Aviators page To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://web2.airmail.net/qba321tm/q-page1.html |
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In a message dated 9/25/00 5:27:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
n1victor@... writes: << Hi Dave, If you have a PPG paint dealer in town get some DX330 Solvent, it'll remove silicone based chemicals and won't have any effect on the foam core. Use two clean rags, one to apply small amounts of DX330 and one to wipe the area clean and be sure to remove all the '330, if you don't it can cause similar problems. If it is real deep in the micro, I'd sand all the affected area and start over with micro filler. Bud Starnes >> ===================== I don't know about your DX 330 but I just tried a bit of foam in the gal. I just bought last Saturday and it does defiantly affect both the blue and orange foam. It doesn't melt instantly like it does in reducer but it was noticeably softer in less than 30 sec. I'd stick with the soap and water. DX 330 will probably cost him more than $20/gal without my discount. "Think outside the box - but fly in the envelope" <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/bd5er/Qpage.html">Q-2 page</A> Leon McAtee |
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Dave Richardson <dave@...>
Thanks folks for all your help.
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This really demonstrates the power of this Q-List tool. Back to sanding... ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Russell" <Jeff@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Painting Problem
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Everett T Starnes <n1victor@...>
Hi Dave,
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If you have a PPG paint dealer in town get some DX330 Solvent, it'll remove silicone based chemicals and won't have any effect on the foam core. Use two clean rags, one to apply small amounts of DX330 and one to wipe the area clean and be sure to remove all the '330, if you don't it can cause similar problems. If it is real deep in the micro, I'd sand all the affected area and start over with micro filler. Bud Starnes On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:31:39 -0400 "Dave Richardson" <dave@...> writes: -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor |
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