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Paul Selmer
Hi Gang,
After years of assuming I would not be able to fly, ( artificial leg ), I talked with a local EAA member and he set me up to start taking lessons. Then I discovered Trade-A -Plane, found this Q1 for sale, I thought this is the way to go! Next, I found this site just in time to attend " Field of Dreams" last year and everyone sounded very helpful both in person, and online. Kept on Trade-A-Plane until I found Joe Tygart's ad for n672cp, a Q2 with a Revmaster turbo. I purchased n672cp with a bent tailwheel spring. After trying to fix it, ( after 3 trips to Fayettville NC. ), I gave up and cut it at the joint between the forward and aft fuselage shells in order to make it trailerable, and brought it home on a trailer. The Q2 came with a set of plans but only up to chapt. 14, and the chapt. needed the most is 15, ( thank you David Gall), after making it trailable, I still need to make the "Gall Wheel Alignment", and the La Rue brake mod. Question for the group, I will need to repaint my plane when finished and the original builder, felt uncomfortable after taxi testing, decided to give it to a charity and kept the builders logs. What is the best primer, and paint to use? Any Q2's near here that I, or my current flight instructor can get a ride in? Paul Selmer Gettysburg, Pa
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In a message dated 3/12/2006 2:21:01 PM Mountain Standard Time,
larry2@... writes: Question for the group, I will need to repaint my plane when finishedHas the plane been given an airworthiness certificate by the FAA? If not, you may have problems getting one. Once that issue is solved, getting the complete set of plans, minus the templates is simple on the net. But verify the FAA documentability FIRST! Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@... Larry, All you have to do is sign an affadavit that the plane was amature built and the FAA will issue an Experimental Airworthiness Certificate. The Q types have already been approved as meeting the 51% amature built kit. Regards, Charlie
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Larry Severson
Question for the group, I will need to repaint my plane when finishedHas the plane been given an airworthiness certificate by the FAA? If not, you may have problems getting one. Once that issue is solved, getting the complete set of plans, minus the templates is simple on the net. But verify the FAA documentability FIRST! Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@...
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Paul Selmer
Hi Larry
Yes the plane has 95 hours and signed off, it's at that finished, signed off,and just needs a little more work to make it better stage. I just need to touch some of the areas,large,and small. Not sure of the brand of paint, and primer the builder used, is there a universal brand? Another question, can I use the quarter turn fastners to fasten at the front to rear fuselage shells? Thank you Paul --- In Q-LIST@..., larry severson <larry2@...> wrote: finishedQuestion for the group, I will need to repaint my plane when decidedand the original builder, felt uncomfortable after taxi testing, Ifto give it to a charity and kept the builders logs.Has the plane been given an airworthiness certificate by the FAA? not, you may have problems getting one. Once that issue is solved,on the net. But verify the FAA documentability FIRST!
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Leon - C <leon@...>
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From: "Paul Selmer" <paulselmer@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: New Member Hi LarryUnfortunatly, no. However if you use one of the "name brand" paints and follow the manufactures recomendations for proper surface prep you should have few problems. The problem with patching a Q is that unlike an automobile there are few naturual breaks. Most often it's recomeded to paint full "panels" at one time because if the paint systems aren't compatable you need to cover the old with a "sealer" and there is no way to blend this coat. If the paint systems are compatable (by test) then you can do spot repairs and blend so it looks good. A quick test for compatabality is to put some of the reducer from the new paint on a rag and lay it on the area to be repaired (taper sanded to the base) for an hour or so. If the original paint is still firm and unwrinkled you are probably safe. If you can dig soft paint out with a finger nail you might have problems without a sealer. Another question, can I use the quarter turn fastners to fasten atYou can. But it wouldn't be a very good idea, as the tail just might come loose! Most aren't designed or intended for structural uses. A battery powered screwdriver makes quick work of the task of unbolting the recommended fasteners. Very few Q owners seem to make regular use of the traileraing option anyway. ================== Leon McAtee Just my frost bitten opinions................
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Sam Hoskins <shoskins@...>
Paul,
I would strongly recommend against using quarter turn fasteners. Once the plane is flying, you will only remove the tail cone at annual inspection time, if that. The problem with the quarter turn fasteners is they will allow some movement. Stick to the screws as per plans. As far as the paint goes, if you can get hold of a professional auto body guy, bring him out and show it to him. Maybe he can look at what you have and make recommendations. Sam Hoskins Q-200 1,515+ hrs. Murphysboro, IL _____ From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Paul Selmer Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:03 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: New Member Hi Larry Yes the plane has 95 hours and signed off, it's at that finished, signed off,and just needs a little more work to make it better stage. I just need to touch some of the areas,large,and small. Not sure of the brand of paint, and primer the builder used, is there a universal brand? Another question, can I use the quarter turn fastners to fasten at the front to rear fuselage shells? Thank you Paul --- In Q-LIST@..., larry severson <larry2@...> wrote: finishedQuestion for the group, I will need to repaint my plane when decidedand the original builder, felt uncomfortable after taxi testing, Ifto give it to a charity and kept the builders logs.Has the plane been given an airworthiness certificate by the FAA? not, you may have problems getting one. Once that issue is solved,on the net. But verify the FAA documentability FIRST! Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org SPONSORED LINKS Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation+maintenance&w1=Aviation+mainte nance&w2=Aviation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w4=Av iation+maintenance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.sig=NYqbfr CRSu-_RfVcTvi4nA> maintenance Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation+maintenance+training&w1=Aviati on+maintenance&w2=Aviation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+scho ols&w4=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.s ig=UheaD83XCnCASim3ftrZHw> maintenance training Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w1=Aviatio n+maintenance&w2=Aviation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+schoo ls&w4=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.si g=aX8ElLSzXlWeeJ4RuRL4kw> maintenance schools Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w1=Aviatio n+maintenance&w2=Aviation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+schoo ls&w4=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.si g=aX8ElLSzXlWeeJ4RuRL4kw> maintenance schools Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation&w1=Aviation+maintenance&w2=Avi ation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w4=Aviation+maint enance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.sig=dx8FsS6KYgxHm3RuBm YoSA> Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation+art&w1=Aviation+maintenance&w2 =Aviation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w4=Aviation+m aintenance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.sig=dRTZGQXiIldZ3q X6IHfOfQ> art _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Q-LIST <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... <mailto:Q-LIST-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____
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Ron <rondefly@...>
Paul, my two cents. If you just need to touch up some areas of the paint, I
would just chip off some of it and get it matched by an electronic machine, It would be much better if you knew what it was so not to put on anything that is not compatable. degrease the areas, lightly sand and paint. On the fasteners, NO, NO and NO. That is a structural area and needs to be bolted as per the plans. Ron Ron Triano http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page10.html _____ From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Paul Selmer Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:03 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: New Member Hi Larry Yes the plane has 95 hours and signed off, it's at that finished, signed off,and just needs a little more work to make it better stage. I just need to touch some of the areas,large,and small. Not sure of the brand of paint, and primer the builder used, is there a universal brand? Another question, can I use the quarter turn fastners to fasten at the front to rear fuselage shells? Thank you Paul --- In Q-LIST@..., larry severson <larry2@...> wrote: finishedQuestion for the group, I will need to repaint my plane when decidedand the original builder, felt uncomfortable after taxi testing, Ifto give it to a charity and kept the builders logs.Has the plane been given an airworthiness certificate by the FAA? not, you may have problems getting one. Once that issue is solved,on the net. But verify the FAA documentability FIRST! Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org SPONSORED LINKS Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation+maintenance&w1=Aviation+mainte nance&w2=Aviation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w4=Av iation+maintenance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.sig=NYqbfr CRSu-_RfVcTvi4nA> maintenance Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation+maintenance+training&w1=Aviati on+maintenance&w2=Aviation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+scho ols&w4=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.s ig=UheaD83XCnCASim3ftrZHw> maintenance training Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w1=Aviatio n+maintenance&w2=Aviation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+schoo ls&w4=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.si g=aX8ElLSzXlWeeJ4RuRL4kw> maintenance schools Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w1=Aviatio n+maintenance&w2=Aviation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+schoo ls&w4=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.si g=aX8ElLSzXlWeeJ4RuRL4kw> maintenance schools Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation&w1=Aviation+maintenance&w2=Avi ation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w4=Aviation+maint enance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.sig=dx8FsS6KYgxHm3RuBm YoSA> Aviation <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Aviation+art&w1=Aviation+maintenance&w2 =Aviation+maintenance+training&w3=Aviation+maintenance+schools&w4=Aviation+m aintenance+schools&w5=Aviation&w6=Aviation+art&c=6&s=161&.sig=dRTZGQXiIldZ3q X6IHfOfQ> art _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Q-LIST <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... <mailto:Q-LIST-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . _____
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Leon - C <leon@...>
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From: "Leon - C" <leon@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: New Member +++++++++++++++++++ Should have mentioned that this test should NOT be done on any surface with Styrofoam foam. Limit the test to metal or at least urethane foam parts. DO NOT put solvent on the wings or canard! +++++++++++++++++++ . A quick test for compatabality is to put some of the reducer from the new paint on a rag and lay it onthe area to be repaired (taper sanded to the base) for an hour or so. If thea sealer.
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chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
Paul (and anyone), it's an obvious point, but worth remembering. When completed (with engine in), the tail dragger sits with a bit of weight on the tail until you remove the tail. Then it suddenly becomes nose heavy and could do some damage if you're not prepared....
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From: "Sam Hoskins" <shoskins@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: New Member Paul,
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