Vortex Generator spacing templates


Keith Welsh <kfly@...>
 

Paul:

I will second that get together. Have some hurdles to clear first. She has been inactive for nearly a year now.
Times being what they are the return to the good ole fun days will just have to wait a little longer....I hope.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S
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Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:01 PM
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Keith,

Great to hear from you. Thanks again for the info on the wide spacing. The template that I posted is a cad drawing of the handmade template you that you sent me years ago (10 maybe).

I keep hoping we will see you with your Quickie at one of our fly-ins. It would be nice to see a flight of two (or more) with Terry and you. Maybe next year.

Paul

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Keith Welsh" <kfly@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul:
>
> Nice to hear from someone else flying the stretched VG spacing and getting along fine as well.
> The hard part of that template was getting the suckers aimed straight with the wind on a swept wing.
>
> I remember the day they were tested. It was summer, the summer I flew the Q to Ottawa, way back in 96 I believe. I had just put them on. Terry had flown down to Terre Haute for something, maybe the MTO fly-in? and I was flying w/ him back towards Davenport about half way to then return home when we came upon a few popcorn thunderstorms operating around Champagne, IL. Soooo.... as any crazy person's would do we headed towards them knowing that if the VG spacing didn't work I'd have an easy escape to good rainless air.
> And the rest is history.
>
> The real test came on the way home from Ottawa when Terry and I flew through some pretty moderately heavy rain. As I remember the pitch change was not worth retrimming for.
>
> Keith
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul S
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 6:47 PM
> Subject: [Q-LIST] Vortex Generator spacing templates
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> I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/
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> Paul
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Paul Spackman
 

Keith,

Great to hear from you. Thanks again for the info on the wide spacing. The template that I posted is a cad drawing of the handmade template you that you sent me years ago (10 maybe).

I keep hoping we will see you with your Quickie at one of our fly-ins. It would be nice to see a flight of two (or more) with Terry and you. Maybe next year.

Paul

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Keith Welsh" <kfly@...> wrote:

Hi Paul:

Nice to hear from someone else flying the stretched VG spacing and getting along fine as well.
The hard part of that template was getting the suckers aimed straight with the wind on a swept wing.

I remember the day they were tested. It was summer, the summer I flew the Q to Ottawa, way back in 96 I believe. I had just put them on. Terry had flown down to Terre Haute for something, maybe the MTO fly-in? and I was flying w/ him back towards Davenport about half way to then return home when we came upon a few popcorn thunderstorms operating around Champagne, IL. Soooo.... as any crazy person's would do we headed towards them knowing that if the VG spacing didn't work I'd have an easy escape to good rainless air.
And the rest is history.

The real test came on the way home from Ottawa when Terry and I flew through some pretty moderately heavy rain. As I remember the pitch change was not worth retrimming for.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 6:47 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vortex Generator spacing templates


I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/

Paul





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Keith Welsh <kfly@...>
 

Hi Paul:

Nice to hear from someone else flying the stretched VG spacing and getting along fine as well.
The hard part of that template was getting the suckers aimed straight with the wind on a swept wing.

I remember the day they were tested. It was summer, the summer I flew the Q to Ottawa, way back in 96 I believe. I had just put them on. Terry had flown down to Terre Haute for something, maybe the MTO fly-in? and I was flying w/ him back towards Davenport about half way to then return home when we came upon a few popcorn thunderstorms operating around Champagne, IL. Soooo.... as any crazy person's would do we headed towards them knowing that if the VG spacing didn't work I'd have an easy escape to good rainless air.
And the rest is history.

The real test came on the way home from Ottawa when Terry and I flew through some pretty moderately heavy rain. As I remember the pitch change was not worth retrimming for.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 6:47 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vortex Generator spacing templates


I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/

Paul


raoborg@...
 

Paul Hi! I have the same problem and if I can't print your files I will come back to you for a fax copy. Thank you Raoul

--- wypaul2001@... wrote:

From: "Paul S" <wypaul2001@...>
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Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Vortex Generator spacing templates
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:03:41 -0000

The reason for not providing the jpg is that it will not print to the proper size. There are several free readers available and then check the measurement, it should be 10 1/8" overall. I will change the files and add this measurement this evening. If all else fails contact me with a fax number and I will fax you a copy if you have the GU canard.

Paul

--- In Q-LIST@..., "HAROLD DIRKS" <hardot7776@...> wrote:

Paul,

How about converting these files to jpg format so those of us without CAD software can see them?


----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S<mailto:wypaul2001@...>
To: Q-LIST@...<mailto:Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:47 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vortex Generator spacing templates


I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/>

Paul











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Michael Quinn
 

I would draw a ruler and put "registration marks" on the page with your drawing or paint program (or cad before you output it to jpg, tiff, or whatever). I put a border around the page with inches (or cm) on at least 2 sides (for vertical and horizontal comparisons). I have done this with paint even and then print it out - test it, then check the size of the VG against the real thing - then check your registration marks that you drew on it (to see if they were exact to a physical ruler) - then you would be able to share the giff, tiff, or jpg - the person recieving it would be able to see if their printout was accurate by the registration marks on the printout and their own ruler (if incorrect they could scale the printout up or down until they got a printout that matched their ruler). I hope this helps!



M.



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From: wypaul2001@...
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:03:41 +0000
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Vortex Generator spacing templates





The reason for not providing the jpg is that it will not print to the proper size. There are several free readers available and then check the measurement, it should be 10 1/8" overall. I will change the files and add this measurement this evening. If all else fails contact me with a fax number and I will fax you a copy if you have the GU canard.

Paul

--- In Q-LIST@..., "HAROLD DIRKS" <hardot7776@...> wrote:

Paul,

How about converting these files to jpg format so those of us without CAD software can see them?


----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S<mailto:wypaul2001@...>
To: Q-LIST@...<mailto:Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:47 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vortex Generator spacing templates


I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/>

Paul














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Paul Spackman
 

The reason for not providing the jpg is that it will not print to the proper size. There are several free readers available and then check the measurement, it should be 10 1/8" overall. I will change the files and add this measurement this evening. If all else fails contact me with a fax number and I will fax you a copy if you have the GU canard.

Paul

--- In Q-LIST@..., "HAROLD DIRKS" <hardot7776@...> wrote:

Paul,

How about converting these files to jpg format so those of us without CAD software can see them?


----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S<mailto:wypaul2001@...>
To: Q-LIST@...<mailto:Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:47 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vortex Generator spacing templates


I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/>

Paul







rick_nordgarden
 

--- In Q-LIST@..., "HAROLD DIRKS" <hardot7776@...> wrote:

Paul,

How about converting these files to jpg format so those of us without CAD software can see them?
SolidWorks offers a FREE viewer that shows you .dwg and .dxf files. Prints 'em out full-scale, too...

http://www.edrawingsviewer.com/pages/programs/download/

Rick Nordgarden
Council Bluffs IA
Dragonfly MkIIH under construction


HAROLD DIRKS
 

Paul,

How about converting these files to jpg format so those of us without CAD software can see them?

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S<mailto:wypaul2001@...>
To: Q-LIST@...<mailto:Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:47 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vortex Generator spacing templates


I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/>

Paul


Paul Spackman
 

I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/

Paul