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Q-200 Touch-down speed.

Chris Rayner <chris-rayner@...> #41473 Thanks for that Jim. I reckon I’m not far off that maybe 81-82 ish. I might try to shave a few knots off tomorrow when I have another go…….. Cheers Chris (G-CUIK) toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of logistics_engineering@... Sent: 08 December 2013 20:27 To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] RE: Q-200 Roll trim. 75-80K touchdown. Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
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Patrick Rameau #41475 Wow...I was thinking that mine was already kinda "hot" with approach speed of 75ish...MPH (with bellyflap). Didnt realize that I should have been expressing gratitude. So has anyone some insights grass field operations? One of the places where I am considering keeping my bird in the future is a well-manicured turf strip in South Florida (Richard's Field). On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 AM, Chris Rayner wrote: Thanks for that Jim. I reckon I’m not far off that maybe 81-82 ish. I might try to shave a few knots off tomorrow when I have another go…….. Cheers Chris (G-CUIK) toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of logistics_engineering@... Sent: 08 December 2013 20:27 To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] RE: Q-200 Roll trim. 75-80K touchdown. Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
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Sam Hoskins #41476 Patrick - I have never landed on grass, nor will I ever. I know a couple of guys have, but it just seems like a bad idea, for me at least. For one, I think it would cause too much drag on the wheels, thus extending the takeoff. I am sure there are exceptions, but I just wouldn't chance it. Do you have a taildragger or Tri-Q? Tri-Q might fare better. Sam toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Patrick Rameau <patrickrameau@...> wrote: Wow...I was thinking that mine was already kinda "hot" with approach speed of 75ish...MPH (with bellyflap). Didnt realize that I should have been expressing gratitude. So has anyone some insights grass field operations? One of the places where I am considering keeping my bird in the future is a well-manicured turf strip in South Florida (Richard's Field). On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 AM, Chris Rayner <chris-rayner@...> wrote: Thanks for that Jim. I reckon I’m not far off that maybe 81-82 ish. I might try to shave a few knots off tomorrow when I have another go…….. Cheers Chris (G-CUIK) From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of logistics_engineering@... Sent: 08 December 2013 20:27 To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] RE: Q-200 Roll trim. 75-80K touchdown. Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
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Jerry Marstall #41477 I fly a TriQ-200 and have landed at the grass strip at Leeward Air Ranch in Ocala, FL several times. Granted, it is a wide, 6000'+ runway that is well groomed. Had no problems either landing or taking off. Because it is at sea level, I actually broke ground in less time than I do at my home drome at 2200'msl. Just make sure the grass is cut. Jerry On 12/9/2013 8:48 AM, Patrick Rameau wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text Wow...I was thinking that mine was already kinda "hot" with approach speed of 75ish...MPH (with bellyflap). Didnt realize that I should have been expressing gratitude. So has anyone some insights grass field operations? One of the places where I am considering keeping my bird in the future is a well-manicured turf strip in South Florida (Richard's Field). On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 AM, Chris Rayner wrote: Thanks for that Jim. I reckon I’m not far off that maybe 81-82 ish. I might try to shave a few knots off tomorrow when I have another go…….. Cheers Chris (G-CUIK) From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of logistics_engineering@... Sent: 08 December 2013 20:27 To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] RE: Q-200 Roll trim. 75-80K touchdown. Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
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Nathan Peck #41478 I had a nose gear collapse on a Tri-Q while taxiing on a turf runway at a fly-in. Hit a small gopher hole. On Dec 9, 2013 8:08 AM, "Jerry Gmail" <jerrylm1986@...> wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text I fly a TriQ-200 and have landed at the grass strip at Leeward Air Ranch in Ocala, FL several times. Granted, it is a wide, 6000'+ runway that is well groomed. Had no problems either landing or taking off. Because it is at sea level, I actually broke ground in less time than I do at my home drome at 2200'msl. Just make sure the grass is cut. Jerry On 12/9/2013 8:48 AM, Patrick Rameau wrote: Wow...I was thinking that mine was already kinda "hot" with approach speed of 75ish...MPH (with bellyflap). Didnt realize that I should have been expressing gratitude. So has anyone some insights grass field operations? One of the places where I am considering keeping my bird in the future is a well-manicured turf strip in South Florida (Richard's Field). On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 AM, Chris Rayner wrote: Thanks for that Jim. I reckon I’m not far off that maybe 81-82 ish. I might try to shave a few knots off tomorrow when I have another go…….. Cheers Chris (G-CUIK) From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of logistics_engineering@... Sent: 08 December 2013 20:27 To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] RE: Q-200 Roll trim. 75-80K touchdown. Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
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Jerry Marstall #41479 Nathan, was that the old nose gear of the Velocity nosegear? J On 12/9/2013 9:51 AM, Nathan Peck wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text I had a nose gear collapse on a Tri-Q while taxiing on a turf runway at a fly-in. Hit a small gopher hole. On Dec 9, 2013 8:08 AM, "Jerry Gmail" <jerrylm1986@...> wrote: I fly a TriQ-200 and have landed at the grass strip at Leeward Air Ranch in Ocala, FL several times. Granted, it is a wide, 6000'+ runway that is well groomed. Had no problems either landing or taking off. Because it is at sea level, I actually broke ground in less time than I do at my home drome at 2200'msl. Just make sure the grass is cut. Jerry On 12/9/2013 8:48 AM, Patrick Rameau wrote: Wow...I was thinking that mine was already kinda "hot" with approach speed of 75ish...MPH (with bellyflap). Didnt realize that I should have been expressing gratitude. So has anyone some insights grass field operations? One of the places where I am considering keeping my bird in the future is a well-manicured turf strip in South Florida (Richard's Field). On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 AM, Chris Rayner wrote: Thanks for that Jim. I reckon Im not far off that maybe 81-82 ish. I might try to shave a few knots off tomorrow when I have another go.. Cheers Chris (G-CUIK) From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of logistics_engineering@... Sent: 08 December 2013 20:27 To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] RE: Q-200 Roll trim. 75-80K touchdown. Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
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Jim Patillo #41481 Patrick, What type Q are you flying? How many hours have you flown that airplane? How many landings? Best Regards, Jim Patillo
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Jim Patillo #41482 Good evening Chris and Patrick, I don't like making flat approaches in my Q. I prefer a steeper, faster approach and use ground effect to round out and soften the landing, tail wheel first. Sometimes I use the speed brake, sometimes I don't depending on the runway length. My personal minimum is 2,600' x 50'. A flat approach at higher rates of speed can be like skipping a rock across water. Flat or steep approaches at 75 mph as Patrick indicated in his Q is asking for it........ When the bottom drops out, it drops out fast and this becomes a real problem "Quickie"quickly. Further, a tail dragger Q handles cross wind exceptionally well and can land when other tail dragger's don't have a chance. Quartering tailwinds, not so good. Regards, Jim Patillo N46JP Q200 1500+ landings without incident ---In Q-LIST@..., <patrickrameau@...> wrote: Wow...I was thinking that mine was already kinda "hot" with approach speed of 75ish...MPH (with bellyflap). Didnt realize that I should have been expressing gratitude. So has anyone some insights grass field operations? One of the places where I am considering keeping my bird in the future is a well-manicured turf strip in South Florida (Richard's Field). On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 AM, Chris Rayner <chris-rayner@...> wrote: Thanks for that Jim. I reckon I’m not far off that maybe 81-82 ish. I might try to shave a few knots off tomorrow when I have another go…….. Cheers Chris (G-CUIK) toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of logistics_engineering@... Sent: 08 December 2013 20:27 To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] RE: Q-200 Roll trim. 75-80K touchdown. Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
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Nathan Peck #41483 It was not the swain gear leg. Not really sure where it came from. On Dec 9, 2013 9:03 AM, "Jerry Gmail" <jerrylm1986@...> wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text Nathan, was that the old nose gear of the Velocity nosegear? J On 12/9/2013 9:51 AM, Nathan Peck wrote: I had a nose gear collapse on a Tri-Q while taxiing on a turf runway at a fly-in. Hit a small gopher hole. On Dec 9, 2013 8:08 AM, "Jerry Gmail" <jerrylm1986@...> wrote: I fly a TriQ-200 and have landed at the grass strip at Leeward Air Ranch in Ocala, FL several times. Granted, it is a wide, 6000'+ runway that is well groomed. Had no problems either landing or taking off. Because it is at sea level, I actually broke ground in less time than I do at my home drome at 2200'msl. Just make sure the grass is cut. Jerry On 12/9/2013 8:48 AM, Patrick Rameau wrote: Wow...I was thinking that mine was already kinda "hot" with approach speed of 75ish...MPH (with bellyflap). Didnt realize that I should have been expressing gratitude. So has anyone some insights grass field operations? One of the places where I am considering keeping my bird in the future is a well-manicured turf strip in South Florida (Richard's Field). On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 AM, Chris Rayner wrote: Thanks for that Jim. I reckon I’m not far off that maybe 81-82 ish. I might try to shave a few knots off tomorrow when I have another go…….. Cheers Chris (G-CUIK) From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of logistics_engineering@... Sent: 08 December 2013 20:27 To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] RE: Q-200 Roll trim. 75-80K touchdown. Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
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Patrick Rameau #41485 Mine is a TriQ200. Being deployed in Afghanistan, my hours on her are few so far, but I expect to get more while on leave next month....gotta perform an epic cross-country (AZ to FL). Ground-adjustable prop, which has been more hassle than expected. No heater, so that should keep things brisk - which is still preferable to a summertime flight across the desert. Thanks for all the feedback...this group has been extremely helpful for me! Patrick
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One Sky Dog #41486 Patrick, What kind of ground adjustable prop? Regards, Charlie Johnson Ogden, Ut toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:18 PM, <patrickrameau@...> wrote: Mine is a TriQ200. Being deployed in Afghanistan, my hours on her are few so far, but I expect to get more while on leave next month....gotta perform an epic cross-country (AZ to FL). Ground-adjustable prop, which has been more hassle than expected. No heater, so that should keep things brisk - which is still preferable to a summertime flight across the desert. Thanks for all the feedback...this group has been extremely helpful for me! Patrick
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