main@Q-List.groups.io | Weight and Balance of N33QR

Martin Skiby

#44913

Good Morning all. We had the opportunity to weigh the plane yesterday and the following is the chart we attained. I would appreciate any of you that have comment to let me know. We have a GU Canard on this Q200 so the CG range is a bit different than the LS Canard. Empty Weight	Weight	Arm (in)	Moment	CG	Weight	Arm	Moment
				Right	359	38.625	13866.375
Aircraft	727	40.98	29792.46	Left	358	38.625	13827.75
Oil	10	5	50	Tail	10	210.125	2101.25
Header Fuel	30	24	720
Fuel Main	120	44.6	5352	Total	727		29795.375
Pilot	200	59.5	11900
Passenger	0	59.5	0	CG=	40.98400963
Baggage	0	78	0
Ballast	0	119.75	0
Totals:	1087		47814.46

Jay Scheevel

#44917

Hi Martin,

Looks good. I only question whether you can actually get 20 gallons in the main tank! Anyway, I have loaded your numbers into a spreadsheet that I made for my plane. This spreadsheet has a function that graphs your W&B evolution while in flight for 0.1 hour intervals from full tanks to empty. I am attaching that spreadsheet to this response.

As mentioned, I have loaded your numbers into the sheet and verified your numbers on the spreadsheet are the same as you report above. The background that is embedded in the graph, is for the LS-1 canard. I do not have the one for the GU canard handy, but I think that the numbers will be close.

Someone more experienced than I (read that as Paul Spackman) can comment on the GU range.

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building

Jay Scheevel

#44921

Looks like the attachment did not attach. I have loaded it into the files section

Jay

Mike Dwyer

#44936

Wow that's a heavy Q200. 90 lbs more than mine. And with a gu canard. Better make every landing a squeeker.

Mike Q200 N3QP

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On Feb 13, 2017 11:37 AM, "mskiby@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

Good Morning all. We had the opportunity to weigh the plane yesterday and the following is the chart we attained. I would appreciate any of you that have comment to let me know. We have a GU Canard on this Q200 so the CG range is a bit different than the LS Canard.

Empty Weight

Weight

Arm (in)

Moment

CG

Weight

Arm

Moment

Right 359 38.625 13866.375

Aircraft 727 40.98 29792.46 Left 358 38.625 13827.75

Oil 10 5 50 Tail 10 210.125 2101.25

Header Fuel 30 24 720

Fuel Main 120 44.6 5352 Total 727 29795.375

Pilot 200 59.5 11900

Passenger 0 59.5 0 CG= 40.98400963

Baggage 0 78 0

Ballast 0 119.75 0

Totals: 1087 47814.46

Martin Skiby

#44923

Thanks Jay, Yes that is the question. Our TriQ does have the large tank, but we have yet to do a total fill of this one and accurately measure so the numbers were for the "hope" we had 20. Probably it will be 15 which will just adjust that weight.

I pulled the GU canard CG and it is quite a bit more narrow than the LS.

Martin Skiby

#44924

The section on the right was the actual weights and measures to get the CG, The left side was the chart that shows the weight and moment of each station then showing the total.

I can send you the Excel sheet if you like. It also has the chart with the CG limits for the LS an GU canard.

Jay Scheevel

#44926

The chart that is in the spreadsheet is posted on top of a scanned image of the standard LS-1 cg chart. You can "ungroup" that graph and replace the image with the one you have. Just stretch the graph dimensions to overlay the image that you import, and it should work just right.

Cheers,
Jay

Jay Scheevel

#44929

Hi Martin,

Send me your GU chart and I will embed in the spreadsheet and put it back on the files section.

Cheers,
Jay

Martin Skiby

#44927

I sent you the Excel sheet. I have done that already, but did not attach it to the numbers earlier.

Thanks Jay.

Martin Skiby

#44928

Your sheet is so much better!,,

Thanks Jay!!

Martin Skiby

#44930

Jay, I made some adjustments to your sheet. Main and header tank were swapped I believe. I also added the GU canard to the chart. Uploaded for your review.

Thanks again for the help. Looks like we are in good shape on the weights.

Jay Scheevel

#44932

Hi Martin,

Sent you the corrected version offline and am replacing the one in the files section with the correct version that has the GU limit posted on it, along with the LS-1 limits.

Cheers,
Jay

Martin Skiby

#44935

Great, Thanks,

We are good to go it seems. Thanks Jay. Your the best. Let me know if you want to pull the trigger and buy the TriQ for training!!! hahahaha

britmcman99

#44939

I am very sensitive about my weight! How many of us have any "weight reduction" numbers having removed vacuum pump, vacuum hoses, filter, and all

steam gages and swap for glass panel alternatives?

Phil

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On Feb 13, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

Wow that's a heavy Q200. 90 lbs more than mine. And with a gu canard. Better make every landing a squeeker.

Mike Q200 N3QP

On Feb 13, 2017 11:37 AM, "mskiby@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

Good Morning all. We had the opportunity to weigh the plane yesterday and the following is the chart we attained. I would appreciate any of you that have comment to let me know. We have a GU Canard on this Q200 so the CG range is a bit different than the LS Canard.

Empty Weight

Weight

Arm (in)

Moment

CG

Weight

Arm

Moment

Right 359 38.625 13866.375

Aircraft 727 40.98 29792.46 Left 358 38.625 13827.75

Oil 10 5 50 Tail 10 210.125 2101.25

Header Fuel 30 24 720

Fuel Main 120 44.6 5352 Total 727 29795.375

Pilot 200 59.5 11900

Passenger 0 59.5 0 CG= 40.98400963

Baggage 0 78 0

Ballast 0 119.75 0

Totals: 1087 47814.46