Update on Quickie Builders Association / Quickheads website
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Thanks Jon and Dan,
Looks good. Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q still building |
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Hello,
The QBA website has been restored and is back online thanks to Dan’s key assistance.
Looking forward, the site will be reworked into a platform that is better designed for maintenance and upkeep so that situations like these do not happen again.
Thank you for your patience and support, and please do not hesitate to let me know of any issues or suggestions.
Kind regards, Jon
Jon Matcho
Repairing Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Building a Cozy Mark IV+ Quickie Builders Association Administrator www.quickheads.com Canard Zone Administrator www.canardzone.com Canard Avaitors Mailing List Administrator https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/canard-aviators |
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Jay Scheevel wrote:
> …I have set up a Google Groups site. It functions very similarly to Yahoo Groups. It is essentially just a e-mail or online posting list like this one.
The Cozy group did exactly this for similar reasons.
> The Google Group is called Q-list2.
May I suggest calling the group “Quickie Mailing List” so we can more easily be found by someone searching “quickie”. There’s already a Qlist there and now a “Q-list2”, and I find both naming conventions somewhat cryptic.
I can assist however you see fit.
Thanks, Jon
Jon Matcho QBA Administrator Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E
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I have noticed over the past several weeks that Yahoo Groups is becoming increasingly unstable and unreliable. Sometimes disappearing for hours or days at a time, or unable to post to it for long periods. (Note, I am talking about this Yahoo Group forum, not Quickheads.com). Apparently, when the group owners contact Yahoo for technical support, they say they no longer are doing anything but maintaining "groups". No trouble shooting, no new code or features. In anticipation of this forum completely dying out, I have set up a Google Groups site. It functions very similarly to Yahoo Groups. It is essentially just a e-mail or online posting list like this one. You can attach photos and documents to your posts, but it does not have a separate directory for attached items, you have search through the notices to find them. The search engine is very good though, as you might expect. Once Yahoo Groups dies, I will maintain the forum up for all of you who wish to use a tool similar to this Yahoo Group. The Google Group is called Q-list2. Just search Google Groups for Q-list2 and you will find it. If you request to be a member, I will receive and process that request, then it will work for you just like this one (you will need to set up some preferences on a one time basis on the online version, after that you can just use e-mail, if you choose).
If anyone else is interested in helping to moderate that Google group, let me know. There can be several moderators and I can also transfer ownership to someone else, if they wish to be the owner/moderator. Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building |
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The site has been partially recovered, but still waiting on the restoration of the remaining items (the site/forum database). I can move forward with this myself, but am waiting for Dan to get back from vacation to ensure all is well. I expect the site to be back online no later than January 1 (worst case, reworked), but likely mid/late December. No content has been lost and we have multiple backups.
Phil Lankford wrote:
> Is there any contingency plan to assure the survival of the site beyond your own?
I’m very much not dead yet, but yes, Dan and I are the current administrators so if anything goes wrong either of us can step up. Beyond that, the site is in my will for how to turnover to another administrator through whatever communication mechanisms will be available between tomorrow and the next 30+ years. Much before that I am looking to bring others on to assist here and with the Canard Zone (www.canardzone.com) which is equally demanding on my time.
> I will admit I am a big fan of the Yahoo groups site and not so much of the site for which there is a cost to users.
I actually administrate the “Canard Aviators” email group and subscribe to several others as well. They’re simple and easy using just email, offered as a free service by companies such as Yahoo and Google. Access to the QBA site does not require a payment to view content, only for those wanting to donate or purchase the CAD-enhanced drawings Dan setup to offset costs required to keep the site going.
> I am just a little more in the “free-ware/ open source” camp…
Same here, and that’s much to do with the philosophy that keeps the site running – donations and author contributions (ex. Sam Hoskins’ and Dan Yager’s recent improved documentation on the construction of the LS1 canard). Being all-in with software and related topics (my full-time day job), I know that the successful open source projects require the same thing that keeps our airplanes in the air – money. There’s been quite a lot of actual money spent just to get to where we are right now; to be able to even have this discussion. If you look at the RV forum, that’s so busy that the person running it does it as their full-time job (not factory sponsored, supported through advertising, subscriptions, and donations).
Looking forward, in addition to handling this outage, there’s 40+ hours of work required to get the site upgraded to new and current technology so that it doesn’t go down again. There are also real costs in addition to time that include servers, hosting, and software.
The intent is absolutely for free access to the information, and to grow the community by increasing awareness and value. I’m sure we can agree on that.
If anyone has time and skills to offer I would be happy to talk to you. Please feel free to contact me here or directly for anything else as well. I do appreciate the feedback.
Kind regards, Jon
Jon Matcho Repairing a Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Building a Cozy Mark IV+ Quickie Builders Association Administrator www.quickheads.com Canard Zone Administrator www.canardzone.com Canard Avaitors Mailing List Administrator https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/canard-aviators |
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Hello Jon: I am hoping all things are well in you camp. In following the discussion on the QBA site I am perplexed by the whole process of the building of a website that at some point in time will need to be passed along to a new administrator. Is there any contingency plan to assure the survival of the site beyond your own?
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I will admit I am a big fan of the Yahoo groups site and not so much of the site for which there is a cost to users. This is not meant to be a slame on all the efforts you have put forth. Your work is excellent and worth the price. I am just a little more in the “free-ware/ open source” camp, and what happens to the the valued information should there ever be a site apocalypse? To whom is the torch passed? Respectfully, Phil On Nov 30, 2017, at 8:18 AM, 'Jon Matcho' jonmatcho@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
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MD wrote:
> Thanks for keeping up with this Jon.
Thank you! It’s valuable to me as much as any other builder/flyer I hope.
> As someone with a QBA "auto-renew" it has been fairly irksome not having access to the old newsletters for research the last few months. First, thank you for your support. I certainly appreciate that. However, while there have been more outages than usual these past few months (another topic), the site has been down for just 2 weeks now (hard to tell when exactly it went down, but wasn’t “months”).
The update is that the site is in recovery with the provider. This is the best I can arrange short of taking a week off to setup with another hosting service. Rather, I want to get the site back online and will then migrate to a more capable provider to avoid this situation in the future.
Thank you for your support and patience.
Kind regards, Jon
Jon Matcho QBA Administrator Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E
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