#### W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Joe Hood <joe.hood@...>

Oh, from Sanjay to boot (same EAA chapter).

Thanks!

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 20:22 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
Couldn't agree with everyone more; don't trust it!!!

The last three paragraphs of this article should give you some idea on the process (just ignore the numbers):

Q-talk 143 - It's Alive!
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-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)

Michael Dunning

Couldn't agree with everyone more; don't trust it!!!

The last three paragraphs of this article should give you some idea on the process (just ignore the numbers):

Q-talk 143 - It's Alive!
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-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)

Jay Scheevel

I totally agree with everything that Paul just said. It is easy-peasy if you have a plumb-bob, a carpenter’s square, a tape measure, and three scales. Go for it.

Cheers,

Jay

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 7:17 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

The way to find the pilot/copilot arm is to climb in and weigh the plane again.  A little algebra will let you calculate the arm.  It's way more accurate than trying to measure a center of mass of a reclined pilot.  I did the same thing for each fuel tank and baggage.

Once you have the plane leveled on the scales it's just a matter of taking multiple readings as you load up the plane.  From there it's just math.  The only measuring you need is to find the exact location of each of the landing gear relative to the datum.

Since each plane is hand made, you should NOT depend on anyone else's arm lengths.

Just my opinion.

Paul Fisher

Q-200 N17PF

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 07:22 Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:

Thanks! I can only imagine, over time, the weight has changed. I've seen a couple different numbers for arm distance for the pilot/co-pilot but that should be a matter of measuring from the firewall.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:22 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.

Cheers,

Jay

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.

Thanks,
Joe

Paul Fisher

The way to find the pilot/copilot arm is to climb in and weigh the plane again.  A little algebra will let you calculate the arm.  It's way more accurate than trying to measure a center of mass of a reclined pilot.  I did the same thing for each fuel tank and baggage.

Once you have the plane leveled on the scales it's just a matter of taking multiple readings as you load up the plane.  From there it's just math.  The only measuring you need is to find the exact location of each of the landing gear relative to the datum.

Since each plane is hand made, you should NOT depend on anyone else's arm lengths.

Just my opinion.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 07:22 Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:
Thanks! I can only imagine, over time, the weight has changed. I've seen a couple different numbers for arm distance for the pilot/co-pilot but that should be a matter of measuring from the firewall.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:22 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.

Cheers,

Jay

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.

Thanks,
Joe

Bruce Crain

If I remember correctly the datum is 14" in front of the firewall.  But it has been years since I did weight and balance so someone help me out here.
Bruce

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 08:22:23 -0400

Thanks! I can only imagine, over time, the weight has changed. I've seen a couple different numbers for arm distance for the pilot/co-pilot but that should be a matter of measuring from the firewall.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:22 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.

Cheers,

Jay

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.

Thanks,
Joe

Joe Hood <joe.hood@...>

Thanks! I can only imagine, over time, the weight has changed. I've seen a couple different numbers for arm distance for the pilot/co-pilot but that should be a matter of measuring from the firewall.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:22 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.

Cheers,

Jay

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.

Thanks,
Joe

Jay Scheevel

I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.

Cheers,

Jay

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.

Thanks,
Joe

Joe Hood <joe.hood@...>

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.

Thanks,
Joe

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