Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...


Corbin
 

Hey guys,

My A&P  has had too many delays so I am starting on the EIS install myself.  I have two questions that should be easy clarification type questions.   Pics  also included below.

First, is the DC mini sensor that is mounted to the top of the engine.  The pic below from the install manual shows it mounted left of center and the wire going towards pilot side.  When I compare my sensor to that same location, the wire goes towards the passenger side.  Seems to me that the magnet was installed on the wrong side of the bracket.

Second, and I feel dumb on this one.  The screws provided say they must be used.  The third pic is of the flush mount stainless screws provided.  These are much larger than my prop bolts so am I supposed to buy new stainless steel prop bolts?

Thanks,

Corbin

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Paul Fisher
 

The third picture looks like spark plugs adapters to me.  They adapt automotive sparkplugs to the 18mm hole in the cylinders.  But maybe I'm just not seeing them correctly.

Sorry, I can't comment on the sensor mounting.

Paul

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 12:13 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey guys,

My A&P  has had too many delays so I am starting on the EIS install myself.  I have two questions that should be easy clarification type questions.   Pics  also included below.

First, is the DC mini sensor that is mounted to the top of the engine.  The pic below from the install manual shows it mounted left of center and the wire going towards pilot side.  When I compare my sensor to that same location, the wire goes towards the passenger side.  Seems to me that the magnet was installed on the wrong side of the bracket.

Second, and I feel dumb on this one.  The screws provided say they must be used.  The third pic is of the flush mount stainless screws provided.  These are much larger than my prop bolts so am I supposed to buy new stainless steel prop bolts?

Thanks,

Corbin

  

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Lynn French
 

Like Paul said, some confusion on the stainless steel screw because it looks like the wrong picture got attached. 
Definitely do NOT use stainless steel prop bolts. 
If your EIS is not configurable to set your sensor TDC location via software then you will need to make sure you mount it where they indicated or your timing will be off. 

Short & simple from my mobile 

On Sep 3, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:


Hey guys,

My A&P  has had too many delays so I am starting on the EIS install myself.  I have two questions that should be easy clarification type questions.   Pics  also included below.

First, is the DC mini sensor that is mounted to the top of the engine.  The pic below from the install manual shows it mounted left of center and the wire going towards pilot side.  When I compare my sensor to that same location, the wire goes towards the passenger side.  Seems to me that the magnet was installed on the wrong side of the bracket.

Second, and I feel dumb on this one.  The screws provided say they must be used.  The third pic is of the flush mount stainless screws provided.  These are much larger than my prop bolts so am I supposed to buy new stainless steel prop bolts?

Thanks,

Corbin

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Jay Scheevel
 

Could it be that you are holding the sensor upside down?  Does it look OK if you flip it over?  I think the stainless screws are because they need to be non-magnetic. Don’t think you have to change the prop bolts because they are not in the range of the sensor.  I am guessing at all of the above, so it is worth what you paid for it.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2020 11:13 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Hey guys,

 

My A&P  has had too many delays so I am starting on the EIS install myself.  I have two questions that should be easy clarification type questions.   Pics  also included below.

 

First, is the DC mini sensor that is mounted to the top of the engine.  The pic below from the install manual shows it mounted left of center and the wire going towards pilot side.  When I compare my sensor to that same location, the wire goes towards the passenger side.  Seems to me that the magnet was installed on the wrong side of the bracket.

 

Second, and I feel dumb on this one.  The screws provided say they must be used.  The third pic is of the flush mount stainless screws provided.  These are much larger than my prop bolts so am I supposed to buy new stainless steel prop bolts?

 

Thanks,

 

Corbin

 

IMG_0727.jpegIMG_1904.jpeg  

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Stan Susman
 

The bushings are spark plug adapters

On Thursday, September 3, 2020, 10:57:51 AM PDT, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:


Hey guys,

My A&P  has had too many delays so I am starting on the EIS install myself.  I have two questions that should be easy clarification type questions.   Pics  also included below.

First, is the DC mini sensor that is mounted to the top of the engine.  The pic below from the install manual shows it mounted left of center and the wire going towards pilot side.  When I compare my sensor to that same location, the wire goes towards the passenger side.  Seems to me that the magnet was installed on the wrong side of the bracket.

Second, and I feel dumb on this one.  The screws provided say they must be used.  The third pic is of the flush mount stainless screws provided.  These are much larger than my prop bolts so am I supposed to buy new stainless steel prop bolts?

Thanks,

Corbin

IMG_0727.jpegIMG_1904.jpeg  
IMG_1343.jpeg

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Corbin
 

Thanks everyone!!  Yes, I had confusion with the brass versus SS flush bolts.  The SS are mentioned in the manual as included but they are not.  So I will use my original prop bolts.  Also, I think the sensor was simply  mounted on the right side of the aluminum mounting plate when shipped to me.  I am confident I just need to move it to the other side and it will line up with the photo in the install manual.

Thanks again everyone.

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Corbin
 

mounted on the right side of the aluminum mounting plate
I mean the it was shipped mounted on the wrong side of the mounting plate.  I will move it to the right side.

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Kevin Sheeley
 

Corbin,

The sensor appears to be on the correct size according to the plans. The bag of bushings are for automotive spark plugs.

Kevin

On Thursday, September 3, 2020, 01:22:11 PM EDT, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:


The third picture looks like spark plugs adapters to me.  They adapt automotive sparkplugs to the 18mm hole in the cylinders.  But maybe I'm just not seeing them correctly.

Sorry, I can't comment on the sensor mounting.

Paul

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 12:13 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey guys,

My A&P  has had too many delays so I am starting on the EIS install myself.  I have two questions that should be easy clarification type questions.   Pics  also included below.

First, is the DC mini sensor that is mounted to the top of the engine.  The pic below from the install manual shows it mounted left of center and the wire going towards pilot side.  When I compare my sensor to that same location, the wire goes towards the passenger side.  Seems to me that the magnet was installed on the wrong side of the bracket.

Second, and I feel dumb on this one.  The screws provided say they must be used.  The third pic is of the flush mount stainless screws provided.  These are much larger than my prop bolts so am I supposed to buy new stainless steel prop bolts?

Thanks,

Corbin

IMG_0727.jpegIMG_1904.jpeg  
IMG_1343.jpeg

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Kevin Sheeley
 

Corbin,

The center of the sensor should be on the centerline of the engine as in the manual. Bracket side is correct.

On Thursday, September 3, 2020, 04:01:50 PM EDT, Kevin Sheeley via groups.io <kjsheely1@...> wrote:


Corbin,

The sensor appears to be on the correct size according to the plans. The bag of bushings are for automotive spark plugs.

Kevin

On Thursday, September 3, 2020, 01:22:11 PM EDT, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:


The third picture looks like spark plugs adapters to me.  They adapt automotive sparkplugs to the 18mm hole in the cylinders.  But maybe I'm just not seeing them correctly.

Sorry, I can't comment on the sensor mounting.

Paul

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 12:13 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey guys,

My A&P  has had too many delays so I am starting on the EIS install myself.  I have two questions that should be easy clarification type questions.   Pics  also included below.

First, is the DC mini sensor that is mounted to the top of the engine.  The pic below from the install manual shows it mounted left of center and the wire going towards pilot side.  When I compare my sensor to that same location, the wire goes towards the passenger side.  Seems to me that the magnet was installed on the wrong side of the bracket.

Second, and I feel dumb on this one.  The screws provided say they must be used.  The third pic is of the flush mount stainless screws provided.  These are much larger than my prop bolts so am I supposed to buy new stainless steel prop bolts?

Thanks,

Corbin

IMG_0727.jpegIMG_1904.jpeg  
IMG_1343.jpeg

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Corbin
 

Kevin,

You are saying it is should be mounted on the left side of the mounting bracket?  In the install manual, it is on the right side of the mounting bracket.  
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Corbin
 

Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
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Sam Hoskins
 

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

Sam 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
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Corbin
 

Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

Corbin Ge!ser

On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

Sam 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
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Sam Hoskins
 

Well, there was that one time... 


On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 5:13 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

Corbin Ge!ser

On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

Sam 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
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David J. Gall
 

Corbin,

 

It looks to me like you could just install the mount as assembled at the factory, but put it on the left side of the case split line under the nuts instead of under the heads of the case bolts….

 

My $.02

 

David J. Gall

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

 

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

 

Sam 

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
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Corbin
 

It looks like you could to me as well.  The only thing that makes me second guess that is the install manual makes a point to notate the sensor wire needs to “point” clockwise (right/to the pilot side) on top and bottom. 

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:17 AM, David J. Gall <David@...> wrote:



Corbin,

 

It looks to me like you could just install the mount as assembled at the factory, but put it on the left side of the case split line under the nuts instead of under the heads of the case bolts….

 

My $.02

 

David J. Gall

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

 

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

 

Sam 

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
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Jay Scheevel
 

I think that Jim Patillo has a lightspeed. Is that right Jim. Any ideas for Corbin?

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 6:02 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

It looks like you could to me as well.  The only thing that makes me second guess that is the install manual makes a point to notate the sensor wire needs to “point” clockwise (right/to the pilot side) on top and bottom. 

Corbin



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:17 AM, David J. Gall <David@...> wrote:



Corbin,

 

It looks to me like you could just install the mount as assembled at the factory, but put it on the left side of the case split line under the nuts instead of under the heads of the case bolts….

 

My $.02

 

David J. Gall

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

 

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

 

Sam 

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
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Jim Patillo
 

Good morning Jay,

Corbin and I have been communicating by phone for awhile now regarding his Plasma 3 Lightspeed’s and associated install issues. I think he’s just about got it dialed in now. Trying to keep him (as a newby) away from Klaus as much as possible. 😊.

Klaus is mellowing in his old age but can still get crazy if asked questions that’s already been explained in his install instructions 


Jim
N46JP Q200


Corbin
 

Thanks Jay.  Jim’s been a great help over the phone the last couple of days.

Me, Jim, and Kevin all have different versions of the Light Speed setup.

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



I think that Jim Patillo has a lightspeed. Is that right Jim. Any ideas for Corbin?

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 6:02 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

It looks like you could to me as well.  The only thing that makes me second guess that is the install manual makes a point to notate the sensor wire needs to “point” clockwise (right/to the pilot side) on top and bottom. 

Corbin



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:17 AM, David J. Gall <David@...> wrote:



Corbin,

 

It looks to me like you could just install the mount as assembled at the factory, but put it on the left side of the case split line under the nuts instead of under the heads of the case bolts….

 

My $.02

 

David J. Gall

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

 

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

 

Sam 

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
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Jon Finley
 

Really??? Klaus???

 

😊

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Patillo
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 12:27 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Good morning Jay,

Corbin and I have been communicating by phone for awhile now regarding his Plasma 3 Lightspeed’s and associated install issues. I think he’s just about got it dialed in now. Trying to keep him (as a newby) away from Klaus as much as possible. 😊.

Klaus is mellowing in his old age but can still get crazy if asked questions that’s already been explained in his install instructions 


Jim
N46JP Q200


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Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4