Jay's that is a fabulous log you put together.  Makes my etch-a-sketch page look puny.

Hi Stephen,

The armrest is part of the fuselage structure and stiffens the fuselage where the canopy opening is. The opening makes that portion of the fuselage less rigid, so the stiffening contribution of the consoles is needed. There is a solution to your dilemma, however. If you cut the top of the armrest off, but leave or fabricate an attach flange (glass to glass) on both the fuselage side and the vertical portion of the arm rest, you can put some nut-plates on this tab and fasten with screws to maintain the structural stiffness of the armrest assembly. This is what I did on my build. Center console, and both armrests are built this way on my plane. See pages 97-104 in the linked document: http://n8wq.scheevel.com/documents/build_logs/02_N8WQ-log_Construction-Fuselage.pdf

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephen Theron
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 8:39 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

Hi Guys

I’m busy restoring after standing for 17 years.

I’m busy with the Belly board control handle mechanism which seized and needs replacing. The handle is situated inside the left armrest against the fuselage. In order to access this I may need to cut away part of the armrest? Has anyone had any experience with this and if so please share with me. Is the armrest an integral part of the structure?

Regards

Stephen Theron
+27 84 699 1684
Johannesburg
South Africa.

On 22 Mar 2021, at 22:26, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Thanks Jerry. High compliment, coming from you!

 

FYI. There is more! Look under the heading “Build Logs, Chapters” on the following page: http://n8wq.scheevel.com/BuilderDocuments.htm

 

I put all this online, so that if I get stranded somewhere because of a problem, I can refer to this info and refresh my ever more feeble memory before I start tearing things apart to fix stuff.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Marstall
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 2:04 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

 

Jay's that is a fabulous log you put together.  Makes my etch-a-sketch page look puny.

J

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>

Date: 3/22/21 11:58 AM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@Q-List.groups.io

Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

 

Hi Stephen,

The armrest is part of the fuselage structure and stiffens the fuselage where the canopy opening is. The opening makes that portion of the fuselage less rigid, so the stiffening contribution of the consoles is needed. There is a solution to your dilemma, however. If you cut the top of the armrest off, but leave or fabricate an attach flange (glass to glass) on both the fuselage side and the vertical portion of the arm rest, you can put some nut-plates on this tab and fasten with screws to maintain the structural stiffness of the armrest assembly. This is what I did on my build. Center console, and both armrests are built this way on my plane. See pages 97-104 in the linked document: http://n8wq.scheevel.com/documents/build_logs/02_N8WQ-log_Construction-Fuselage.pdf

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephen Theron
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 8:39 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

Hi Guys

I’m busy restoring after standing for 17 years.

I’m busy with the Belly board control handle mechanism which seized and needs replacing. The handle is situated inside the left armrest against the fuselage. In order to access this I may need to cut away part of the armrest? Has anyone had any experience with this and if so please share with me. Is the armrest an integral part of the structure?

Regards

Stephen Theron
+27 84 699 1684
Johannesburg
South Africa.

Hi Jay

Stephen,  Just as a heads up. Many on this group recommend AGAINST most mods. I actually agree with that, since all of mine were primarily for my own preferences, added weight and added a LOT of extra build time.

So I would caution you to be judicious with your desires to modify things, even if you are copying some of my mods.

Best advice. If you are thinking of making a mod. Please bounce it off of this group first to see what kind of consensus you find before you launch into the effort.  

Cheers,

Jay

Hi Jay

On Mar 22, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Stephen Theron <steviet888@...> wrote:

Hi Jay

Thank you for your “above and beyond “, well documented reply. It also gives me information for more modifications and improvements. 

Thank you very much. 

Regards

Stephen Theron 

+2784 699 1684

Johannesburg 

South Africa

On 22 Mar 2021, at 22:26, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Thanks Jerry. High compliment, coming from you!

 

FYI. There is more! Look under the heading “Build Logs, Chapters” on the following page: http://n8wq.scheevel.com/BuilderDocuments.htm

 

I put all this online, so that if I get stranded somewhere because of a problem, I can refer to this info and refresh my ever more feeble memory before I start tearing things apart to fix stuff.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Marstall
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 2:04 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

 

Jay's that is a fabulous log you put together.  Makes my etch-a-sketch page look puny.

J

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>

Date: 3/22/21 11:58 AM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@Q-List.groups.io

Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

 

Hi Stephen,

The armrest is part of the fuselage structure and stiffens the fuselage where the canopy opening is. The opening makes that portion of the fuselage less rigid, so the stiffening contribution of the consoles is needed. There is a solution to your dilemma, however. If you cut the top of the armrest off, but leave or fabricate an attach flange (glass to glass) on both the fuselage side and the vertical portion of the arm rest, you can put some nut-plates on this tab and fasten with screws to maintain the structural stiffness of the armrest assembly. This is what I did on my build. Center console, and both armrests are built this way on my plane. See pages 97-104 in the linked document: http://n8wq.scheevel.com/documents/build_logs/02_N8WQ-log_Construction-Fuselage.pdf

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephen Theron
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 8:39 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

Hi Guys

I’m busy restoring after standing for 17 years.

I’m busy with the Belly board control handle mechanism which seized and needs replacing. The handle is situated inside the left armrest against the fuselage. In order to access this I may need to cut away part of the armrest? Has anyone had any experience with this and if so please share with me. Is the armrest an integral part of the structure?

Regards

Stephen Theron
+27 84 699 1684
Johannesburg
South Africa.

One other thought. I know that the folks in the UK are pretty limited as to what mods they can legally make to the original plans/kit. May be the same in ZA.  Make sure that you do not make your plane un-licensable.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jay Scheevel
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 3:08 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

 

Stephen,  Just as a heads up. Many on this group recommend AGAINST most mods. I actually agree with that, since all of mine were primarily for my own preferences, added weight and added a LOT of extra build time.

 

So I would caution you to be judicious with your desires to modify things, even if you are copying some of my mods.

 

Best advice. If you are thinking of making a mod. Please bounce it off of this group first to see what kind of consensus you find before you launch into the effort.  

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephen Theron
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 2:57 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

 

Hi Jay

 

Thank you for your “above and beyond “, well documented reply. It also gives me information for more modifications and improvements. 

 

Thank you very much. 

Regards

 

Stephen Theron 

+2784 699 1684

Johannesburg 

South Africa

 

On 22 Mar 2021, at 22:26, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Thanks Jerry. High compliment, coming from you!

 

FYI. There is more! Look under the heading “Build Logs, Chapters” on the following page: http://n8wq.scheevel.com/BuilderDocuments.htm

 

I put all this online, so that if I get stranded somewhere because of a problem, I can refer to this info and refresh my ever more feeble memory before I start tearing things apart to fix stuff.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Marstall
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 2:04 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

 

Jay's that is a fabulous log you put together.  Makes my etch-a-sketch page look puny.

J

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>

Date: 3/22/21 11:58 AM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@Q-List.groups.io

Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

 

Hi Stephen,

The armrest is part of the fuselage structure and stiffens the fuselage where the canopy opening is. The opening makes that portion of the fuselage less rigid, so the stiffening contribution of the consoles is needed. There is a solution to your dilemma, however. If you cut the top of the armrest off, but leave or fabricate an attach flange (glass to glass) on both the fuselage side and the vertical portion of the arm rest, you can put some nut-plates on this tab and fasten with screws to maintain the structural stiffness of the armrest assembly. This is what I did on my build. Center console, and both armrests are built this way on my plane. See pages 97-104 in the linked document: http://n8wq.scheevel.com/documents/build_logs/02_N8WQ-log_Construction-Fuselage.pdf

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephen Theron
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 8:39 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Quickie Tri Q2 with Belly board

Hi Guys

I’m busy restoring after standing for 17 years.

I’m busy with the Belly board control handle mechanism which seized and needs replacing. The handle is situated inside the left armrest against the fuselage. In order to access this I may need to cut away part of the armrest? Has anyone had any experience with this and if so please share with me. Is the armrest an integral part of the structure?

Regards

Stephen Theron
+27 84 699 1684
Johannesburg
South Africa.

Jay you’ve gotta get that bird judged at Oshkosh!  You could put Quickies back on the map!

One other thought. I know that the folks in the UK are pretty limited as to what mods they can legally make to the original plans/kit. May be the same in ZA.  Make sure that you do not make your plane un-licensable.

Cheers,

Jay

Stephen,  Just as a heads up. Many on this group recommend AGAINST most mods. I actually agree with that, since all of mine were primarily for my own preferences, added weight and added a LOT of extra build time.

So I would caution you to be judicious with your desires to modify things, even if you are copying some of my mods.

Best advice. If you are thinking of making a mod. Please bounce it off of this group first to see what kind of consensus you find before you launch into the effort.  

Cheers,

Jay

Hi Jay

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