Reflexor control


Nick Wright
 

Thanks for the help! Seeing everyone's pictures helps tremendously!


Terrence ONeill <troneill@...>
 

Great , Jay !!!
I’ll chek ‘em out.

Terry

On Apr 11, 2022, at 1:33 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Hi  Terry,
 
Have a look at pages 36-42 of linked pdf and you will see the access ports that I put in over the canard (left and right sides). I thank my lucky stars that I put these in. I use them almost all the time for access, maintenance and annual inspections. I have toe brakes and these ports are essential for me to maintain them easily. 
 
 
Cheers,
Jay
 
 
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrence ONeill
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Thanks Paul.  Well heck; I’ve flown with rudder brakes since 1947 and I’m  too old to try to remember where my brakes are when I SUDDENLY need ‘em. 
 
 Learned that lesson— that habit controls in an emergency - trying (one time was enough) to adapt to an ultralight Mitchel's… pull-to-go-down-by reducing angle of attack - pitch-control.  Surviving the impack, when I repaired the landing gear etc. I just modified it to “push to go down - conventional, and all was well thereafter.
 
Has anyone figured our how to modify the Q200 to modify so as to access, then thereafter be able to service the brakes?
 
Terry
 
 


On Apr 11, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:
 
Access is exactly why I still have hand brakes.  I'm too old to reach under the instrument panel to maintain toe brakes!  That and I've flown with hand brakes for over 30 years now, so I think I'm used to it.
 
Paul
 
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 12:02 Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:
Sam, I remember your hand brakes, when I visited your plane last year; and mine are the same.
But I really want to change them to have  my brakes on the rudder pedals.
 
Does anypne on the list have converted fromhand to them them on th3 rudders?
How do you access the rudder pedals?
 
Terry


On Apr 11, 2022, at 6:29 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
 
Nick, I use the ratchet type cable.  You can see it here, just aft of the control stick.  I normally only adjust it three times during flight; before takeoff, cruise, and in the landing pattern. BTW, this photo is at least 15 years old, the instrument panel is now completely different.
 
Sam
 
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 1:58 PM Nick Wright <nwright27@...> wrote:
Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?
 
 
 
 
 
 



Jay Scheevel
 

Hi  Terry,

 

Have a look at pages 36-42 of linked pdf and you will see the access ports that I put in over the canard (left and right sides). I thank my lucky stars that I put these in. I use them almost all the time for access, maintenance and annual inspections. I have toe brakes and these ports are essential for me to maintain them easily.

 

http://n8wq.scheevel.com/documents/build_logs/02_N8WQ-log_Construction-Fuselage.pdf

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

 

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Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Reflexor control

 

Thanks Paul.  Well heck; I’ve flown with rudder brakes since 1947 and I’m  too old to try to remember where my brakes are when I SUDDENLY need ‘em. 

 

 Learned that lesson— that habit controls in an emergency - trying (one time was enough) to adapt to an ultralight Mitchel's… pull-to-go-down-by reducing angle of attack - pitch-control.  Surviving the impack, when I repaired the landing gear etc. I just modified it to “push to go down - conventional, and all was well thereafter.

 

Has anyone figured our how to modify the Q200 to modify so as to access, then thereafter be able to service the brakes?

 

Terry

 

 



On Apr 11, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

 

Access is exactly why I still have hand brakes.  I'm too old to reach under the instrument panel to maintain toe brakes!  That and I've flown with hand brakes for over 30 years now, so I think I'm used to it.

 

Paul

 

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 12:02 Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:

Sam, I remember your hand brakes, when I visited your plane last year; and mine are the same.

But I really want to change them to have  my brakes on the rudder pedals.

 

Does anypne on the list have converted fromhand to them them on th3 rudders?

How do you access the rudder pedals?

 

Terry



On Apr 11, 2022, at 6:29 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

 

Nick, I use the ratchet type cable.  You can see it here, just aft of the control stick.  I normally only adjust it three times during flight; before takeoff, cruise, and in the landing pattern. BTW, this photo is at least 15 years old, the instrument panel is now completely different.

 

Sam

 

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 1:58 PM Nick Wright <nwright27@...> wrote:

Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?

 

 

 

 

 

 


Terrence ONeill <troneill@...>
 

Thanks Paul.  Well heck; I’ve flown with rudder brakes since 1947 and I’m  too old to try to remember where my brakes are when I SUDDENLY need ‘em. 

 Learned that lesson— that habit controls in an emergency - trying (one time was enough) to adapt to an ultralight Mitchel's… pull-to-go-down-by reducing angle of attack - pitch-control.  Surviving the impack, when I repaired the landing gear etc. I just modified it to “push to go down - conventional, and all was well thereafter.

Has anyone figured our how to modify the Q200 to modify so as to access, then thereafter be able to service the brakes?

Terry



On Apr 11, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Access is exactly why I still have hand brakes.  I'm too old to reach under the instrument panel to maintain toe brakes!  That and I've flown with hand brakes for over 30 years now, so I think I'm used to it.

Paul

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 12:02 Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:
Sam, I remember your hand brakes, when I visited your plane last year; and mine are the same.
But I really want to change them to have  my brakes on the rudder pedals.

Does anypne on the list have converted fromhand to them them on th3 rudders?
How do you access the rudder pedals?

Terry

On Apr 11, 2022, at 6:29 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Nick, I use the ratchet type cable.  You can see it here, just aft of the control stick.  I normally only adjust it three times during flight; before takeoff, cruise, and in the landing pattern. BTW, this photo is at least 15 years old, the instrument panel is now completely different.

Sam


On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 1:58 PM Nick Wright <nwright27@...> wrote:
Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?







Paul Fisher
 

Access is exactly why I still have hand brakes.  I'm too old to reach under the instrument panel to maintain toe brakes!  That and I've flown with hand brakes for over 30 years now, so I think I'm used to it.

Paul


On Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 12:02 Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:
Sam, I remember your hand brakes, when I visited your plane last year; and mine are the same.
But I really want to change them to have  my brakes on the rudder pedals.

Does anypne on the list have converted fromhand to them them on th3 rudders?
How do you access the rudder pedals?

Terry

On Apr 11, 2022, at 6:29 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Nick, I use the ratchet type cable.  You can see it here, just aft of the control stick.  I normally only adjust it three times during flight; before takeoff, cruise, and in the landing pattern. BTW, this photo is at least 15 years old, the instrument panel is now completely different.

Sam


On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 1:58 PM Nick Wright <nwright27@...> wrote:
Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?




Jerry Marstall
 

I use electric servo operated by coolie button atop of control stick. Use continually throughout flight. Ditched trim wheel and springs 24 yrs ago.
Jerry M

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 8:29 AM Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
Nick, I use the ratchet type cable.  You can see it here, just aft of the control stick.  I normally only adjust it three times during flight; before takeoff, cruise, and in the landing pattern. BTW, this photo is at least 15 years old, the instrument panel is now completely different.

Sam
MVC-035F.JPG

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 1:58 PM Nick Wright <nwright27@...> wrote:
Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?


Chris Walterson
 

Michael-------------  That little wheel is for elevator trim. It goes to the elevator and is attached with two springs that allow me to tweak it

a bit to fly hands off.  The little knob in front of the control stick is to give me aileron trim. Hooked up same as the elevator trim with two springs.

 Helps to fly the airplane level by myself or with a heavy passenger.  Take care---------  Chris


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Terrence ONeill <troneill@...>
 

Sam, I remember your hand brakes, when I visited your plane last year; and mine are the same.
But I really want to change them to have  my brakes on the rudder pedals.

Does anypne on the list have converted fromhand to them them on th3 rudders?
How do you access the rudder pedals?

Terry

On Apr 11, 2022, at 6:29 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Nick, I use the ratchet type cable.  You can see it here, just aft of the control stick.  I normally only adjust it three times during flight; before takeoff, cruise, and in the landing pattern. BTW, this photo is at least 15 years old, the instrument panel is now completely different.

Sam
MVC-035F.JPG

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 1:58 PM Nick Wright <nwright27@...> wrote:
Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?




Sam Hoskins
 

Nick, I use the ratchet type cable.  You can see it here, just aft of the control stick.  I normally only adjust it three times during flight; before takeoff, cruise, and in the landing pattern. BTW, this photo is at least 15 years old, the instrument panel is now completely different.

Sam
MVC-035F.JPG


On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 1:58 PM Nick Wright <nwright27@...> wrote:
Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?


Michael Dunning
 

Chris,

What's this thing? Feel free to answer privately or in another topic; don't want to derail Nick's question.


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Jay Scheevel
 

I agree with Paul on both his comments. My handle pivot has a variable friction lock on it. I can put my thumb on the panel with my fingers around it and make fine adjustments that way. I also have elevator trim (electric) activated with the same hand and that control is just above the throttle.

 

So  in summary, my left hand does throttle, mixture, mag switches, starter, primer, carb heat, elevator trim and reflexor. My right hand does the flying 😉

 

Cheers,
Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Fisher
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 5:30 PM
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I used a vernier prop control (blue knob) in the left armrest.  I like the ability to make very fine adjustments - it can be quite sensitive.

 

I would recommend wherever you put it, you'll want to activate it with your left hand (assuming you have the stick in your right hand).

 

Paul

 

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 13:58 Nick Wright <nwright27@...> wrote:

Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?


Paul Fisher
 

I used a vernier prop control (blue knob) in the left armrest.  I like the ability to make very fine adjustments - it can be quite sensitive.

I would recommend wherever you put it, you'll want to activate it with your left hand (assuming you have the stick in your right hand).

Paul

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 13:58 Nick Wright <nwright27@...> wrote:
Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?


Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Nick,

 

I used a stick-like handle on the left below the throttle panel and at the front of armrest. The handle has the same “sense” as the stick, meaning pulling back is nose up. It moves the reflexor mechanism with a loop of cable. The details can be seen on pages 22-24 of the following document:

http://n8wq.scheevel.com/documents/build_logs/04_N8WQ-log_Construction-Control-Systems.pdf

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 208 hours

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nick Wright
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 12:59 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Reflexor control

 

Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?


Chris Walterson
 

Correction----------  In front of the left hand throttle and boost controller.--------------  Chris


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Chris Walterson
 

Throttle for a lawnmower. In front of the stick. --------------- Chris


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Nick Wright
 

Hi guys. What is the best option for reflexor control? I've thought about using a friction lever in the location where the hand brake once was, but I've also seen some using a push-pull throttle vernier control also. Is one beeter than the other or just preference?