AV30 Install
Good morning, I wanted to maintain the Legacy look, yet have AHRS/EFIS capability with Wifi interface. I flew with the new instruments a couple days ago, tweaking parameters for AOA and G Load graphics. Next I will do the Magnometer calibration. The new units weigh a couple ounces each.
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Jerry Marstall
Very nice. Less wt = more speed. Jerry m
On Sat, May 14, 2022, 11:20 AM Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
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Kevin Boddicker
Jim,
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What size wire did you use for the install? Will I see you in September? No song lyrics intended.
Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 580 hrs Luana, IA.
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Rick Hole
Just a reminder, wire size for both power and ground is determined by the breaker or fuse protecting that circuit, not by the expected load. In the event of a short circuit the wire must conduct high current until the breaker or fuse interrupts the circuit without overheating. For an extreme example, consider if the load were a 10 mA LED pilot light connected to a 10 amp breaker circuit. A short at the LED would result in (more than) 10 amps flowing through the wire. While it is tempting to think we could use perhaps a 24 or 26 gauge wire, plenty good for 10 mA, that wire would glow red hot before evaporating with the possibility of causing other nearby wires’ insulation to melt and a cascade failure result. Or an in-flight fire. Hence the wire must hold up for the trip current long enough for the breaker/fuse to blow.
Rick Hole
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Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 10:11 AM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] AV30 Install
Jim, What size wire did you use for the install?
Will I see you in September? No song lyrics intended.
Kevin Boddicker
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Nice job Jim!!!!
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Mike
On May 14, 2022, at 11:48 AM, Rick Hole via groups.io <r.hole@...> wrote:
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Sorry to hear about that, Jim. Your gonna have to wear steel toed shoes to stay in weight and balance now.
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Phil Lankford
On May 14, 2022, at 9:11 AM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
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Hi Kevin, 22ga.
Jim
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 9:11:28 AM To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] AV30 Install Jim,
What size wire did you use for the install?
Will I see you in September? No song lyrics intended.
Kevin
Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 580 hrs Luana, IA.
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22ga. Shielded Kevin. Jim
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Rick Hole
To put my previous comment in perspective I looked up in FAA Advisory Circular 43.13-1b the table 11-3 on page 11-15.
For the circuit in question, take the breaker or fuse value and read the wire gauge in the left column. Too small a wire (higher gauge number than listed) is a fire hazard. Too large is safe but carries other penalties. For a 22g wire, the breaker should be no larger than 5 amps.
This is a common error in homebuilt aircraft.
Rick Hole
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Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 10:48 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] AV30 Install
Just a reminder, wire size for both power and ground is determined by the breaker or fuse protecting that circuit, not by the expected load. In the event of a short circuit the wire must conduct high current until the breaker or fuse interrupts the circuit without overheating. For an extreme example, consider if the load were a 10 mA LED pilot light connected to a 10 amp breaker circuit. A short at the LED would result in (more than) 10 amps flowing through the wire. While it is tempting to think we could use perhaps a 24 or 26 gauge wire, plenty good for 10 mA, that wire would glow red hot before evaporating with the possibility of causing other nearby wires’ insulation to melt and a cascade failure result. Or an in-flight fire. Hence the wire must hold up for the trip current long enough for the breaker/fuse to blow.
Rick Hole
From: main@Q-List.groups.io [mailto:main@Q-List.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Jim, What size wire did you use for the install?
Will I see you in September? No song lyrics intended.
Kevin Boddicker
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Paul Fisher
Very nice Jim. I'd like to do the same thing, but a significant portion of my 401k seems to have disappeared in the past few weeks. I think I'll wait a while! But your's looks great. Paul
On Sat, May 14, 2022, 10:20 Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
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Kevin and Rick, Jim
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Looks fantastic Jim! Avionics is a great company! I have their ADSB-in and out in my RV6.
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Bruce
On May 14, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
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Rick Hole
Well done. My caution was intended for new builders for whom undersized wires is an easy mistake to make. Sonia (1953-2020) & Rick
On Sat, May 14, 2022, 5:47 PM Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
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Corbin <c_geiser@...>
VERY nice, Jim! That looks great and I kind like the original look being maintained.
-- Corbin N121CG
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Looking good Jim, If you have removed your vac system, you can save another few ounces by taking your Vac gauge out and fitting a grommet. :-) Rich T.
On 14/05/2022 16:20, Jim Patillo wrote:
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Wow Jim..that looks impressive. Your panel looks exactly like I had in mind with the exception I'll only be using one AV30.
I also plan to add the OAT and ADSB out beacon. We even share the same transponder!
Vern
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Thomson <richard@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2022 11:18 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] AV30 Install Looking good Jim, If you have removed your vac system, you can save another few ounces by taking your Vac gauge out and fitting a grommet. :-) Rich T. On 14/05/2022 16:20, Jim Patillo wrote:
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Fredd Baber
This is what I’d eventually like to do. Nice work!!
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Fredd B
On May 16, 2022, at 7:10 AM, Frankenbird Vern <smeshno1@...> wrote:
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Jon Finley
Very nice Jim - well done!!
You can now turn that suction gauge into a fun-to-suck ratio gauge. Looks like it's currently pegged on FUN!! Jon Finley Flying an RV-4 - Truth or Consequences, NM Flying Videos - YouTube
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Thanks for all the nice comments re: the AV30 install. Yes Jon, it’s pegged on the fun meter. 😊.
I’m now looking for a black plastic plug to fill that fun meter hole.
Jim
N46JP
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jon Finley <jd@...>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 5:44:42 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] AV30 Install Very nice Jim - well done!!
You can now turn that suction gauge into a fun-to-suck ratio gauge. Looks like it's currently pegged on FUN!! Jon Finley Flying an RV-4 - Truth or Consequences, NM Flying Videos - YouTube
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That would be a great place for a little touch-screen timer/clock, Jim. Panel looks very nice. I am partial to the 3 ¼” round instruments.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Patillo
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 9:34 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] AV30 Install
Thanks for all the nice comments re: the AV30 install. Yes Jon, it’s pegged on the fun meter. 😊. I’m now looking for a black plastic plug to fill that fun meter hole.
Jim N46JP From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jon Finley <jd@...>
Very nice Jim - well done!!
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