Panel Progress


Corbin
 

We’ve had 2-3 weeks of delays but are back working on the new panel now. We took off the tail tonight in prep for the autopilot servo and new aux battery.

As you can see in the attached photo, I can easily get to and replace my fuel filter now that the panel is out. I love being able to easily access and see everything with the panel gone.

If there are any other items I should pay attention to at this time behind the panel please let me know. For instance, I’ll replace the overflow fuel hose since it’s likely the original one.

I also need to revisit where most people have placed their pitch servo (those with autopilots) because it seems a bit crowded in the center in front of the trim wheel and under header tank so I need to decide where to place it.

Love learning more about these planes but sure wish I was flying more these days. It will all be worth it with these upgrades though.







Corbin

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Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Corbin,

Love those military grade Amphenol disconnects that you have on the back side of the bulkhead. Very high quality work there. The only thing I would suggest is moving your fuel filter to a place that is easier to access and less messy to clean or replace. I did this by including a lockout valve next to the filter between it and then tank. This valve is always safetied open, except when doing maintenance. Closing it assures that tank contents will not backflow while I am changing the filter. You can then put the filter below the header tank for easier access and inspection. The easier it is to change or check something, the more likely you are to do it.

I agree with changing out the return line to the main tank also.

Good luck with the panel upgrade. You have a very nice plane there.

Cheers,
Jay

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We’ve had 2-3 weeks of delays but are back working on the new panel now. We took off the tail tonight in prep for the autopilot servo and new aux battery.

As you can see in the attached photo, I can easily get to and replace my fuel filter now that the panel is out. I love being able to easily access and see everything with the panel gone.

If there are any other items I should pay attention to at this time behind the panel please let me know. For instance, I’ll replace the overflow fuel hose since it’s likely the original one.

I also need to revisit where most people have placed their pitch servo (those with autopilots) because it seems a bit crowded in the center in front of the trim wheel and under header tank so I need to decide where to place it.

Love learning more about these planes but sure wish I was flying more these days. It will all be worth it with these upgrades though.







Corbin

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Corbin
N121CG


Richard Thomson
 

That looks a well constructed fuselage Corbin.

 I found that a few hours are spent setting up the various parts of the system so added a GENISIS socket to the installation ( thats a Ground Electrical Network Installation, System Interface Socket)

I can now charge either or both batteries and power the electrics without the worry of draining them dry, or major access work.  It also has some pick ups for other items, all in one plug. Lightweight, Quick and simple.

Rich T.

On 10/06/2021 03:36, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
We’ve had 2-3 weeks of delays but are back working on the new panel now. We took off the tail tonight in prep for the autopilot servo and new aux battery.

As you can see in the attached photo, I can easily get to and replace my fuel filter now that the panel is out. I love being able to easily access and see everything with the panel gone.

If there are any other items I should pay attention to at this time behind the panel please let me know. For instance, I’ll replace the overflow fuel hose since it’s likely the original one.

I also need to revisit where most people have placed their pitch servo (those with autopilots) because it seems a bit crowded in the center in front of the trim wheel and under header tank so I need to decide where to place it.

Love learning more about these planes but sure wish I was flying more these days. It will all be worth it with these upgrades though.







Corbin


Corbin
 

Thanks, Jay.  I will take that recommendation on making the filter more accessible.  I love seeing all these disconnects as well...they are used throughout the plane and very nice.
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Corbin
 

Ahh...that is an interesting idea, Richard.  I am off to research that socket.  Appreciate it!
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Kevin Boddicker
 

Corbin,
There was once a TriQ fellow named David Chalmers.
He had an auto pilot that had pitch control.
He mounted the servo in the slot between the aft canard and the main tank.
Fit quite nicely as I remember.
I think he has/had a page in the photo archives.
Maybe look it up. should be of value.

Good luck,

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 551 hrs
Luana, IA.

On Jun 9, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

We’ve had 2-3 weeks of delays but are back working on the new panel now. We took off the tail tonight in prep for the autopilot servo and new aux battery.

As you can see in the attached photo, I can easily get to and replace my fuel filter now that the panel is out. I love being able to easily access and see everything with the panel gone.

If there are any other items I should pay attention to at this time behind the panel please let me know. For instance, I’ll replace the overflow fuel hose since it’s likely the original one.

I also need to revisit where most people have placed their pitch servo (those with autopilots) because it seems a bit crowded in the center in front of the trim wheel and under header tank so I need to decide where to place it.

Love learning more about these planes but sure wish I was flying more these days. It will all be worth it with these upgrades though.







Corbin

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Corbin
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Jerry Marstall
 

My Dynon pitch servo is also mounted on canard. Connects to vertical arm off of the elevator control tube.
Works great. Jerry 

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 7:11 PM Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Corbin,
There was once a TriQ fellow named David Chalmers.
He had an auto pilot that had pitch control.
He mounted the servo in the slot between the aft canard and the main tank.
Fit quite nicely as I remember.
I think he has/had a page in the photo archives.
Maybe look it up. should be of value.

Good luck,

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   551 hrs
Luana, IA.



> On Jun 9, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
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> We’ve had 2-3 weeks of delays but are back working on the new panel now.  We took off the tail tonight in prep for the autopilot servo and new aux battery.
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> As you can see in the attached photo, I can easily get to and replace my fuel filter now that the panel is out.  I love being able to easily access and see everything with the panel gone.
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> If there are any other items I should pay attention to at this time behind the panel please let me know.  For instance, I’ll replace the overflow fuel hose since it’s likely the original one.
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> I also need to revisit where most people have placed their pitch servo (those with autopilots) because it seems a bit crowded in the center in front of the trim wheel and under header tank so I need to decide where to place it.
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> Love learning more about these planes but sure wish I was flying more these days.   It will all be worth it with these upgrades though.
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Jerry Marstall
 

The vertical arm for the servo connect is offset from center to the left.


On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 7:11 PM Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Corbin,
There was once a TriQ fellow named David Chalmers.
He had an auto pilot that had pitch control.
He mounted the servo in the slot between the aft canard and the main tank.
Fit quite nicely as I remember.
I think he has/had a page in the photo archives.
Maybe look it up. should be of value.

Good luck,

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   551 hrs
Luana, IA.



> On Jun 9, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
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> We’ve had 2-3 weeks of delays but are back working on the new panel now.  We took off the tail tonight in prep for the autopilot servo and new aux battery.
>
> As you can see in the attached photo, I can easily get to and replace my fuel filter now that the panel is out.  I love being able to easily access and see everything with the panel gone.
>
> If there are any other items I should pay attention to at this time behind the panel please let me know.  For instance, I’ll replace the overflow fuel hose since it’s likely the original one.
>
> I also need to revisit where most people have placed their pitch servo (those with autopilots) because it seems a bit crowded in the center in front of the trim wheel and under header tank so I need to decide where to place it.
>
> Love learning more about these planes but sure wish I was flying more these days.   It will all be worth it with these upgrades though.
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Corbin
 

Thanks Jerry!
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Jay Scheevel
 

Same with mine. Here’s a picture.

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Marstall
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:54 AM
To: Q-list <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Panel Progress

 

My Dynon pitch servo is also mounted on canard. Connects to vertical arm off of the elevator control tube.

Works great. Jerry 

 

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 7:11 PM Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

Corbin,
There was once a TriQ fellow named David Chalmers.
He had an auto pilot that had pitch control.
He mounted the servo in the slot between the aft canard and the main tank.
Fit quite nicely as I remember.
I think he has/had a page in the photo archives.
Maybe look it up. should be of value.

Good luck,

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   551 hrs
Luana, IA.



> On Jun 9, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> We’ve had 2-3 weeks of delays but are back working on the new panel now.  We took off the tail tonight in prep for the autopilot servo and new aux battery.
>
> As you can see in the attached photo, I can easily get to and replace my fuel filter now that the panel is out.  I love being able to easily access and see everything with the panel gone.
>
> If there are any other items I should pay attention to at this time behind the panel please let me know.  For instance, I’ll replace the overflow fuel hose since it’s likely the original one.
>
> I also need to revisit where most people have placed their pitch servo (those with autopilots) because it seems a bit crowded in the center in front of the trim wheel and under header tank so I need to decide where to place it.
>
> Love learning more about these planes but sure wish I was flying more these days.   It will all be worth it with these upgrades though.
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> Corbin
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Jay Scheevel
 

Here’s my roll servo installation.

 


Richard Thomson
 

Hi Jay

I like the protection over the control tube, is that just glass ?

Do you think it would be sufficient to use heavy duty velcro on the flanges rather than nuts ?

Rich T.

On 11/06/2021 16:27, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Here’s my roll servo installation.

 


Sam Hoskins
 

Honestly, IMHO a guard is not necessary, just adding weight and complexity. I have had luggage back there a lot, and I certainly imagine that it was rubbing on that torque tube at times. With absolutely no noticeable difference. Same with the rudder cables. 

Sam 



On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 1:01 PM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:

Hi Jay

I like the protection over the control tube, is that just glass ?

Do you think it would be sufficient to use heavy duty velcro on the flanges rather than nuts ?

Rich T.

On 11/06/2021 16:27, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Here’s my roll servo installation.

 


Jay Scheevel
 

It is 1/8’ plywood with glass over the top. Velcro would probably work.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 12:02 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Panel Progress

 

Hi Jay

I like the protection over the control tube, is that just glass ?

Do you think it would be sufficient to use heavy duty velcro on the flanges rather than nuts ?

Rich T.

On 11/06/2021 16:27, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Here’s my roll servo installation.

 


Jay Scheevel
 

You may be absolutely right Sam that is not needed, but the reason I put it there is not because of interference or friction, but because I know from solid mechanics that a minor flex can cause a long thin walled tube to buckle instantaneously when exposed to a torsional load if it is flexed slightly out of straight. I did not do the catastrophic yield threshold calculation to see how much of a deflection from straight would be required to fail under normal torsional working loads, but that was my reasoning, and it gives me peace of mind. The guard weighs much less than one pound.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Hoskins
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 4:45 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Panel Progress

 

Honestly, IMHO a guard is not necessary, just adding weight and complexity. I have had luggage back there a lot, and I certainly imagine that it was rubbing on that torque tube at times. With absolutely no noticeable difference. Same with the rudder cables. 

 

Sam 

 

 

 

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 1:01 PM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:

Hi Jay

I like the protection over the control tube, is that just glass ?

Do you think it would be sufficient to use heavy duty velcro on the flanges rather than nuts ?

Rich T.

On 11/06/2021 16:27, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Here’s my roll servo installation.

 

 


Richard Thomson
 

Well I had similar thoughts to Sam, but thanks Jay, that helps me understand why its there. Mine had a cobbled up thing originally which was scrap anyway , so will work on a lightweight replacement at some point.

Cheers guys.



On 12/06/2021 01:07, Jay Scheevel wrote:

You may be absolutely right Sam that is not needed, but the reason I put it there is not because of interference or friction, but because I know from solid mechanics that a minor flex can cause a long thin walled tube to buckle instantaneously when exposed to a torsional load if it is flexed slightly out of straight. I did not do the catastrophic yield threshold calculation to see how much of a deflection from straight would be required to fail under normal torsional working loads, but that was my reasoning, and it gives me peace of mind. The guard weighs much less than one pound.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Hoskins
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 4:45 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Panel Progress

 

Honestly, IMHO a guard is not necessary, just adding weight and complexity. I have had luggage back there a lot, and I certainly imagine that it was rubbing on that torque tube at times. With absolutely no noticeable difference. Same with the rudder cables. 

 

Sam 

 

 

 

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 1:01 PM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:

Hi Jay

I like the protection over the control tube, is that just glass ?

Do you think it would be sufficient to use heavy duty velcro on the flanges rather than nuts ?

Rich T.

On 11/06/2021 16:27, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Here’s my roll servo installation.

 

 


Richard Thomson
 

Here is a picture of mine in the baggage hold, just a better quality glass filled nylon socket with size 12 pins. Dont forget to put inline fuses in the feed lines incase of short circuit.

Box is just a few plys of Bid.

Rich T.

On 10/06/2021 16:37, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Ahh...that is an interesting idea, Richard.  I am off to research that socket.  Appreciate it!
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