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Success with LSE Install


Corbin
 

Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.

Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.

Very glad to have the engine running again.



Corbin

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Murry Rozansky
 

RPM at idle or full throttle?

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Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install

Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.

Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.

Very glad to have the engine running again.



Corbin

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Corbin
 

Not sure just yet.  We just wanted to make sure it would fire up and only tested the MP drop as well as for EMI (have some, unfortunately).  The idle is definitely high so in need of adjustment.   We were chilly and tired from being out there late last night.

Today, I am going back out there to let it run and charge up the battery some more.  I would like to adjust the throttle body for idle as well.  If so, then I would also like to tie down the tail and do a full RPM static test.

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Rick Hole
 

Can you tell US how mucho higher? If for example it reads at 1.5x 2x etc it may be a setting on your tach display.


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM Murry Rozansky <MIRCO@...> wrote:
RPM at idle or full throttle?


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>Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.
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>Sure runs SMOOTH.  RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.
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>Very glad to have the engine running again.
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>Corbin
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Corbin
 

The tach was reading 2500 which is more than my RPM at rotation.  It felt closer to 1000 RPM.  My handheld tach couldn't read the reflective tape so it could be  it was just too dark last night.   I will get better data today hopefully.
 
I will also read the tach manual again to make sure the settings are right.  Glad you mentioned that.

Corbin Ge!ser

On November 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM, Rick Hole <r.hole@...> wrote:

Can you tell US how mucho higher? If for example it reads at 1.5x 2x etc it may be a setting on your tach display.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM Murry Rozansky <MIRCO@...> wrote:
RPM at idle or full throttle?


-----Original Message-----
>From: "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io>
>Sent: Nov 16, 2020 9:07 PM
>To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" <main@q-list.groups.io>
>Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install
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>Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.
>
>Sure runs SMOOTH.  RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.
>
>Very glad to have the engine running again.
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>Corbin
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>Corbin
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Corbin 
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Rick Hole
 

The tach display will have settings for various number of pulses per rev. When you get the right setting your RPM will be correct.  It will never be just a bit off. Good luck.  You are almost there!


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 8:59 AM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
The tach was reading 2500 which is more than my RPM at rotation.  It felt closer to 1000 RPM.  My handheld tach couldn't read the reflective tape so it could be  it was just too dark last night.   I will get better data today hopefully.
 
I will also read the tach manual again to make sure the settings are right.  Glad you mentioned that.

Corbin Ge!ser

On November 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM, Rick Hole <r.hole@...> wrote:

Can you tell US how mucho higher? If for example it reads at 1.5x 2x etc it may be a setting on your tach display.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM Murry Rozansky <MIRCO@...> wrote:
RPM at idle or full throttle?


-----Original Message-----
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>
>Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.
>
>Sure runs SMOOTH.  RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.
>
>Very glad to have the engine running again.
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>Corbin
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>Corbin
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Corbin 
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Leif Johnson
 

Remember your LSE fires each coil twice as often as your mag. It is actually firing each plug on the exhaust stroke in addition to the compression stroke.  I’m sure you knew that but it’s easy to overlook when programming your tach.  Good luck.


On Nov 17, 2020, at 10:24, Rick Hole <r.hole@...> wrote:


The tach display will have settings for various number of pulses per rev. When you get the right setting your RPM will be correct.  It will never be just a bit off. Good luck.  You are almost there!


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 8:59 AM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
The tach was reading 2500 which is more than my RPM at rotation.  It felt closer to 1000 RPM.  My handheld tach couldn't read the reflective tape so it could be  it was just too dark last night.   I will get better data today hopefully.
 
I will also read the tach manual again to make sure the settings are right.  Glad you mentioned that.

Corbin Ge!ser

On November 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM, Rick Hole <r.hole@...> wrote:

Can you tell US how mucho higher? If for example it reads at 1.5x 2x etc it may be a setting on your tach display.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM Murry Rozansky <MIRCO@...> wrote:
RPM at idle or full throttle?


-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Nov 16, 2020 9:07 PM
>To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" <main@q-list.groups.io>
>Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install
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>Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.
>
>Sure runs SMOOTH.  RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.
>
>Very glad to have the engine running again.
>
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>Corbin
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>Corbin
>N33QR
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Corbin 
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Rick Hole
 

Your ignition module is providing 2 pulses per revolution (see page 43 of Plasma II/III installation manual).  You would need to set the tach display for that.  Probably it has been set by default to 1/rev in which case it is reading double.  Your 2500 RPM is really 1250.  And then you will have it.

 

Rick Hole

 

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The tach was reading 2500 which is more than my RPM at rotation.  It felt closer to 1000 RPM.  My handheld tach couldn't read the reflective tape so it could be  it was just too dark last night.   I will get better data today hopefully.

 

I will also read the tach manual again to make sure the settings are right.  Glad you mentioned that.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On November 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM, Rick Hole <r.hole@...> wrote:

Can you tell US how mucho higher? If for example it reads at 1.5x 2x etc it may be a setting on your tach display.

 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM Murry Rozansky <MIRCO@...> wrote:

RPM at idle or full throttle?


-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Nov 16, 2020 9:07 PM
>To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" <main@q-list.groups.io>
>Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install
>
>Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.
>
>Sure runs SMOOTH.  RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.
>
>Very glad to have the engine running again.
>
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>Corbin
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>Corbin
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Corbin 
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Martin Skiby
 

Sorry if I missed the source of the issues.  Corbin,  Glad it worked out and would be interested to know what you found to be the issue.  On the tach, if you have it on the ignition make sure it is set to read one or two revs per firing.  I just had that happen on my new pontoon boat as they has it set wrong.

Glad you got her going and you will LOVE having the electronic ignition..

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Sent: Monday November 16 2020 9:07:41PM
Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install

Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.

Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.

Very glad to have the engine running again.



Corbin

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Corbin
 

You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect.  I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check.  I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down.

Martin - turns out Klaus sent the wrong brackets and holes drilled wrong.  No spark at all if installed aligned with the markings on the magnet plate.  We modified the holes and are still using the wrong bracket.   Just need to make certain the sensors are secure in modified holes before I take to the skies.  Also looking into new brackets to replace these.  
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Corbin 
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Martin Skiby
 

Wow,  Well OK that is good to know.  I wonder why he has two, but OK,

Glad it worked out and enjoy the lower fuel burn and better performance as well!!!
 Come out and see us sometime!!


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Sent: Tuesday November 17 2020 10:58:57AM
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You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect.  I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check.  I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down.

Martin - turns out Klaus sent the wrong brackets and holes drilled wrong.  No spark at all if installed aligned with the markings on the magnet plate.  We modified the holes and are still using the wrong bracket.   Just need to make certain the sensors are secure in modified holes before I take to the skies.  Also looking into new brackets to replace these.  
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Corbin 
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Corbin
 

Funny you mention coming to see you guys.  I was thinking the same thing on the drive out to the hangar today.  Jason could do my conditional!

Corbin Ge!ser

On November 17, 2020 at 1:11 PM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:

Wow,  Well OK that is good to know.  I wonder why he has two, but OK,

Glad it worked out and enjoy the lower fuel burn and better performance as well!!!
 Come out and see us sometime!!



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From: "Corbin via groups.io"
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Sent: Tuesday November 17 2020 10:58:57AM
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You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect.  I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check.  I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down.

Martin - turns out Klaus sent the wrong brackets and holes drilled wrong.  No spark at all if installed aligned with the markings on the magnet plate.  We modified the holes and are still using the wrong bracket.   Just need to make certain the sensors are secure in modified holes before I take to the skies.  Also looking into new brackets to replace these.  
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Corbin 
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Corbin 
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Martin Skiby
 

Well you would need to talk to him about that and schedule it, but I am sure he would not mind at all.  He is very busy and I am very proud that so many people trust in him!

He has found issues with several planes that had been overlooked.  

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Sent: Tuesday November 17 2020 11:15:12AM
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Funny you mention coming to see you guys.  I was thinking the same thing on the drive out to the hangar today.  Jason could do my conditional!

Corbin Ge!ser

On November 17, 2020 at 1:11 PM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:

Wow,  Well OK that is good to know.  I wonder why he has two, but OK,

Glad it worked out and enjoy the lower fuel burn and better performance as well!!!
 Come out and see us sometime!!



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From: "Corbin via groups.io"
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Sent: Tuesday November 17 2020 10:58:57AM
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You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect.  I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check.  I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down.

Martin - turns out Klaus sent the wrong brackets and holes drilled wrong.  No spark at all if installed aligned with the markings on the magnet plate.  We modified the holes and are still using the wrong bracket.   Just need to make certain the sensors are secure in modified holes before I take to the skies.  Also looking into new brackets to replace these.  
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Corbin 
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Bruce Crain
 

Fantastic Corbin! Hope we can cross paths someday soon!
Bruce
On Nov 16, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.

Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.

Very glad to have the engine running again.



Corbin

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Rick Hole
 

It is quite pleasant to be of help.  I have installed oodles of these and made all the mistakes in the first ones.  Klaus is indeed a challenge and once in a while makes a human error but you will be happy with his product now debugged.  
You have an army of experience on this forum.
Rick Hole 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:58 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect.  I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check.  I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down.

Martin - turns out Klaus sent the wrong brackets and holes drilled wrong.  No spark at all if installed aligned with the markings on the magnet plate.  We modified the holes and are still using the wrong bracket.   Just need to make certain the sensors are secure in modified holes before I take to the skies.  Also looking into new brackets to replace these.  
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Corbin 
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Corbin
 

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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Martin Skiby
 

You will be very happy with the setup!   Enjoy.

Martin

 


On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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Corbin 
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Jim Patillo
 

I second what Martin and others have said. You’re gonna love it.

I’ve been flying with Dual Plasma 3 ‘s for 1500 hours now,  having switched from Slick Mags. I didn’t like the idea of having to remove the engine every time the mags needed checking.

The Lightspeed’s have worked much better than expected but with Paul Lipps doing the engineering what else would you have expected. He was a really, really smart guy.

I checked idle again yesterday on both ignitions and I can still idle at 450 RPM and prop rotation is noticibly slow.

You’re making great progress Corbin.

Jim
N46JP Q200

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Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:16:45 AM
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You will be very happy with the setup!   Enjoy.

Martin

 


On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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Corbin 
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Robert Cringely
 

Paul was a great guy. I was working with him on wind turbines when he became ill. Alas, that project died with him...



On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 10:02 AM Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
I second what Martin and others have said. You’re gonna love it.

I’ve been flying with Dual Plasma 3 ‘s for 1500 hours now,  having switched from Slick Mags. I didn’t like the idea of having to remove the engine every time the mags needed checking.

The Lightspeed’s have worked much better than expected but with Paul Lipps doing the engineering what else would you have expected. He was a really, really smart guy.

I checked idle again yesterday on both ignitions and I can still idle at 450 RPM and prop rotation is noticibly slow.

You’re making great progress Corbin.

Jim
N46JP Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Martin Skiby <mskiby@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:16:45 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install
 
You will be very happy with the setup!   Enjoy.

Martin

 


On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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Rik
 

I’m still a bit confused. 

Is klaus refusing to send you the correct mounting hardware?

it has been long enough for the postal pigeons to have delivered it from California to Texas. 

What if, something greater goes wrong?